Lee, That’s a *really* good article, thanks for the link!
-Daniel > On 19 Jul 2018, at 17:21, Lee Hambley <lee.hamb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just throwing in my $0.02 - I've always liked this article about the > roles/responbilibities around testing "drop-ins" - the style is kind of > strange, but I take every opportunity to share this with people who say "just > mock it" (when they mean a double, or a spy…) - > > - https://8thlight.com/blog/uncle-bob/2014/05/14/TheLittleMocker.html > <https://8thlight.com/blog/uncle-bob/2014/05/14/TheLittleMocker.html> > > More talks about precise vocabulary, so we can have highly focused > discussions in our industry are super important. > > Lee Hambley > http://lee.hambley.name/ <http://lee.hambley.name/> > +49 (0) 170 298 5667 > > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 09:19, Jon Rowe <m...@jonrowe.co.uk > <mailto:m...@jonrowe.co.uk>> wrote: > As a member of the RSpec team I know more than I’d like to about doubles and > stubs, I’d do a talk on them if I was in the area but alas might be a while > before I visit up north! > > There is the rspec mailing list for help on generic issues that one of the > team normally responds to. > > Do drop me a line if you’d like some remote consulting though Ian ;) > > Regards > Jon Rowe > --------------------------- > m...@jonrowe.co.uk <mailto:m...@jonrowe.co.uk> > jonrowe.co.uk <http://jonrowe.co.uk/> > > On Wednesday, 18 July 2018 at 22:36, Ian Moss wrote: > >> Ahh was thinking more of a general talk on mocks/stubs, as I've found a few >> people in Berlin/London and Manchester have issues with it in the past. For >> me, I'd not used them for sometime, so thought it might be worth a revisit >> in a general talk. >> >> Client code, so can't share. But it's pretty general tbh. >> >> Cheers for the offer, but based in Berlin for now, as couldn't find enough >> ruby work in Manchester. >> >> I guess there's various of levels of rubyist out there, and probably a fair >> few experts in different areas, but revisiting a few of the more complex >> areas maybe worthwhile was the thinking. >> >> Probably harder to find presenters than talk ideas, as obviously it's not >> for everyone. >> >> Anyways, hope it goes well, and will coincide a vist back with NWRUG at some >> point :) >> >> Keep on, keeping on :) >> >> -- >> Ian Moss >> Freelance ruby & product consultancy services. >> Meet for a coffee? https://calendly.com/alterisian >> <https://calendly.com/alterisian> // >> http://twitter.com/alterisian <http://twitter.com/alterisian> // >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alteris <http://www.linkedin.com/in/alteris> // >> +447427242195 >> >> ----- Original message ----- >> From: Graham Ashton <gra...@effectif.com <mailto:gra...@effectif.com>> >> To: nwrug-members@googlegroups.com <mailto:nwrug-members@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [NWRUG] Talk suggestions >> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 20:13:30 +0100 >> >> On 18 Jul 2018, at 08:24, Ian Moss <he...@ianmoss.com >> <mailto:he...@ianmoss.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Mock/Stubs in rspec. >>> Causing me pain at the moment - updating a ruby/sinatra inherited project. >>> So maybe it's something that others experience, and would learn from a talk >>> in that area. >> >> I wonder if it might be tricky to do a talk that addressed the pains you’ve >> been experiencing Ian, in that we don’t know exactly what they are. >> >> Are you able to show others (e.g. me) the code? If you are, I’d be happy to >> sit down and chat to you about it for half an hour, if that’d help. >> >> If you fancy that, I think this is likely to be a “before the pub” exercise >> (and therefore probably best to do before NWRUG). >> >> Actually, while we’re on the subject, I’d be happy to spend time with/pair >> with anybody who thinks I might be able to help them with (or get better at) >> something. I’ve been thinking for a while that I haven’t been doing enough >> to share the things I’ve learned over the years. 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