If there is previous art using this naming then all good for me. It was odd 
naming to read. When I read “dummy” earlier today, I associated this word with 
“little bit stupid”. That negative connotation sounded slightly unnecessary, 
and hence my observation. If this naming is already widespread used with other 
technologies, then we could name these dummy addresses.

G/


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Gunter,

The choice of “Dummy” is a reference to the “Dummy IPv4 Address” specified by 
4RD

-éric
From: Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com<mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 18 February 2025 at 15:36
To: Gunter van de Velde (Nokia) 
<gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com<mailto:gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>>, Eric 
Vyncke (evyncke) <evyn...@cisco.com<mailto:evyn...@cisco.com>>, James Guichard 
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Subject: Re: [nvo3] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-oam-15.txt
Hi Gunter,
thank you for raising this question. The IPv6 Dummy prefix is introduced to 
address Eric's concern about the use of the IPv6 loopback address as the IP 
destination address in the encapsulated IP/UDP active OAM packet. I am working 
on updating 
draft-ietf-mpls-p2mp-bfd<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-p2mp-bfd/>
 to address Eric's COMMENTS. I'll be glad to use any other name for the new 
IPv6 prefix that the draft requests to be added in IPv6 Special-Purpose Address 
Registry. I greatly appreciate your guidance, advice.

Regards,
Greg

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 12:52 AM Gunter van de Velde (Nokia) 
<gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com<mailto:gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>> wrote:
Hi Greg,

Thanks for the update.

I was scanning through the updated draft. I see that that a fresh IPv6 range is 
now introduced using the name " Dummy IPv6 range TBA2/64". Maybe the term 
"dummy" might not be ideal as it can sound informal or imprecise. Is there 
another name that you think could be used? For example placeholder, stub 
address or virtual loop or so? Any thoughts about this?

G/


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Internet-Draft draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-oam-15.txt is now available. It is a work 
item of the Network Virtualization Overlays (NVO3) WG of the IETF.

   Title:   Active OAM for use in Geneve
   Authors: Greg Mirsky
            Sami Boutros
            David Black
            Santosh Pallagatti
   Name:    draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-oam-15.txt
   Pages:   11
   Dates:   2025-02-17

Abstract:

   Geneve (Generic Network Virtualization Encapsulation) is a flexible
   and extensible network virtualization overlay protocol designed to
   encapsulate network packets for transport across underlying physical
   networks.  This document specifies the requirements and provides a
   framework for Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) in
   Geneve networks.  It outlines the OAM functions necessary to monitor,
   diagnose, and troubleshoot Geneve overlay networks to ensure proper
   operation and performance.  The document aims to guide the
   implementation of OAM mechanisms within the Geneve protocol to
   support network operators in maintaining reliable and efficient
   virtualized network environments.

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-oam/

There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-oam-15.html

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-oam-15

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