On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Dino Farinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Fabio Maino (fmaino) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/26/16 12:08 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
>>>>> Having VXLAN as an Independent Stream RFC gives a document to be used to
>>>>> innovate from.   I believe that was the intent of VXLAN-GPE - to provide 
>>>>> the ability
>>>>> for needed extensions.
>>>> The only new feature the VXLAN-GPE brings to the table is a way to 
>>>> identify that NSH is being encapsulated.
>>>
>>> or any other shim header, NSH just happens to be one.
>>
>> Precisely.  GPE addresses the limitation associated with VXLAN, namely the 
>> lack of multi-protocol support.  As we've seen on the list, other protocols 
>> have come up: MPLS for example.
>
> This is technically not true. As long as you are willing to spend 14 bytes on 
> a MAC header, then anything with an ethertype can be encapsulated with VXLAN.
>
> And I have working code that encapsulates both IPv4 and IPv6 in VXLAN with 
> ethertypes 0x0800 and 0x86dd, respectively.
>
>> There are some other technical benefits as well: version and OAM.
>
As do Geneve and GUE. But this thread is not about touting the
features of these protocols, it is about the technical objections to
them. My major objections (from the list I posted) to VXLAN-GPE is
that it has no extensibility and offers no security of the VNI. These
are showstoppers in my deployment.

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