Yes, you're right.  My mistake.

Anoop

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Larry Kreeger (kreeger) <[email protected]
> wrote:

>  I thought Path MTU discovery was used to set the MSS in the TCP stack.
> I just wasn't sure if it worked the same way for UDP.
>
>   - Larry
>
>   From: Anoop Ghanwani <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, April 10, 2015 12:10 PM
> To: Larry Kreeger <[email protected]>
> Cc: Lizhong Jin <[email protected]>, Lucy yong <[email protected]>,
> Erik Nordmark <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [nvo3] Encapsulation considerations
>
>   Even for TCP it depends on what the MSS is.
>
>  Anoop
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Larry Kreeger (kreeger) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  On 4/9/15 7:22 PM, "Lizhong Jin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Lucy yong [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >>Sent: 2015年4月9日 22:28
>> >>To: Lizhong Jin; 'Erik Nordmark'; [email protected]
>> >>Subject: RE: [nvo3] Encapsulation considerations
>> >>Lizhong,
>> >>[snip]
>> >>  [Lizhong] If the NVE and tenant is integrated into one device, then
>> >>the issue
>> >>could be solved by implementation. Because tenant know the entropy value
>> >>of
>> >>the first segment, and use the same value to the subsequent segment. So
>> >>different implementation model could provide different entropy value. Or
>> >>do we
>> >>need other mechanism to mitigate this issue, e.g., fragment on NVE in
>> >>draft-herbert-gue-fragmentation.
>> >>[Lucy] IMO: NVO3 solution SHOULD avoid packet fragmentation.
>> >>Draft-herbert-gue-fragmentation provides an option for a GUE application
>> >>to do
>> >>fragmentation but does not require doing it. GUE application decides if
>> >>the
>> >>fragmentation is needed or not. We should not separate two.
>> >[Lizhong] fragmentation could not be avoided, because we are unable to
>> >prevent
>> >the tenant from fragmentation. This is the factor which makes the hashing
>> >based
>> >load balancing unoptimized.
>>
>>  I'm not very familiar with host stacks.  Do they actually fragment at
>> the
>> IP layer, or is it done at the transport layer before adding the IP
>> header?  I'm sure TCP must break the segments up before IP would fragment,
>> but I'm not sure about UDP.
>>
>>  - Larry
>>
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