Lucy,

Why would IRB require MAC Address translation. IRB is nothing else than 
sticking an internal routed interface on top of a bridge domain, with L2 
interfaces sticking out of the node.  Packets destined to the mac-address 
associated with the routed interface get routed (and would show up at the 
network side with a new mac-header), other ones get bridged.

Yves



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Lucy yong
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 18:16
> To: LASSERRE, MARC (MARC); [email protected]; [email protected]; Bocci,
> Matthew (Matthew)
> Cc: [email protected]; draft-bl-nvo3-dataplane-
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [nvo3] FW: New Version Notification for draft-yong-nvo3-frwk-
> dpreq-addition-00.txt
> 
> Marc,
> 
> NVO3 work is not just to repeat what we have done before. I am not aware
> of a specific RFC describes IRB. But as you pointed out, IRB is widely 
> deployed
> in the physical networks today, but it is not in VPN bases. Please look at
> Microsoft hyper-v, it also implements IRB for network virtualization.
> 
> I know that the combination of L2 NVE and L3 NVE can serve some
> applications and it is useful, but it is not equivalent to IRB function. To
> support IRB function, the data plane has to perform MAC address translation
> and prevent the broadcast traffic in one subnet network from sending to
> another. There is no such requirement in current data plane requirement
> document.
> 
> Hope this convince you a new service type of NVE.
> 
> Regards,
> Lucy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LASSERRE, MARC (MARC) [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:17 AM
> > To: Lucy yong; [email protected]; [email protected]; Bocci, Matthew
> > (Matthew)
> > Cc: [email protected]; draft-bl-nvo3-dataplane-
> > [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [nvo3] FW: New Version Notification for draft-yong-nvo3-
> > frwk-dpreq-addition-00.txt
> >
> > Lucy,
> >
> > The statement "Neither of them naturally supports the communication
> > among the VMs When some VMs are on the same subnet and other on
> > different" in the introduction of your draft is inaccurate.
> >
> > Integrated routing and switching is configuration/implementation
> > specific to a router.
> > Can you point to a specific RFC that describes IRB and a new interface
> > type?
> > This capibility can be enabled as already mentioned in the dataplane
> > requirements draft.
> > Hence, there is no need to specify a new NVE service type.
> >
> > As far as mobility is concerned, I'm finishing up a new section for
> > the framework draft.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> > > Of Lucy yong
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:19 PM
> > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)
> > > Cc: [email protected];
> > > [email protected]
> > > Subject: [nvo3] FW: New Version Notification for
> > > draft-yong-nvo3-frwk-dpreq-addition-00.txt
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > FYI. We just upload this draft. It provides additions to the
> > > nvo3 framework and data plane requirement beside current documents.
> > > The objective of this draft is to merge the suggested text into the
> > > framework and data plane requirement documents.
> > >
> > > Your comments on this are welcome.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Lucy
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:04 PM
> > > > To: Lucy yong
> > > > Cc: Linda Dunbar
> > > > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-yong-nvo3-frwk-dpreq-
> > > > addition-00.txt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A new version of I-D, draft-yong-nvo3-frwk-dpreq-addition-00.txt
> > > > has been successfully submitted by Lucy Yong and posted to the
> > > > IETF repository.
> > > >
> > > > Filename:        draft-yong-nvo3-frwk-dpreq-addition
> > > > Revision:        00
> > > > Title:           NVO3 Framework and Data Plane
> > > Requirement Addition
> > > > Creation date:   2012-12-11
> > > > WG ID:           Individual Submission
> > > > Number of pages: 9
> > > > URL:
> > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yong-nvo3-
> > > > frwk-dpreq-addition-00.txt
> > > > Status:
> > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yong-nvo3-frwk-
> > > > dpreq-addition
> > > > Htmlized:
> > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yong-nvo3-frwk-dpreq-
> > > > addition-00
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Abstract:
> > > >    This document describes some additional functions and
> > > requirements
> > > >    for NVO3 framework [NVO3FRWK] and data plane
> > > requirements [DPREQ].
> > > >    These additions are necessary in supporting VM communication and
> > > >    mobility.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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