On Sat, Dec 6, 2025 at 17:48 (+0100), Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 06.12.2025 um 17:34 schrieb Jim:
>> Hi,
>> In my continuing quest to adjust white space to my liking, I ran up against
>> an issue with \starttyping that I can't solve. Here is the example:
>> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>> \starttext
>> This is a line above \type{\starttyping}:
>> \starttyping
>> 1. this is typing (and has space above and below)
>> \stoptyping
>> This is a line below.
>> \hairline
>> This is a line above \type{\starttyping[before=,after=,]}
>> \starttyping[before=,after=,]
>> 2. this is typing (and has NO space above or below, just as I want)
>> \stoptyping
>> This is a line below.
>> \hairline
>> \setupwhitespace [big]
>> \midaligned{\type{*** \setupwhitespace[big]} now in effect ***}
>> \hairline
>> This is a line above \type{\starttyping}:
>> \starttyping
>> 3. this is typing (and has space above and below just like '1.')
>> \stoptyping
>> This is a line below.
>> \hairline
>> This is a line above \type{\starttyping[before=,after=,]}
>> \starttyping[before=,after=,]
>> 4. this is typing (and has space above and below, even with
>> [before=,after=,])
>> \stoptyping
>> This is a line below.
>> \hairline
>> This is a line above
>> \type{\starttyping[before={\blank[disable]},after={\blank[disable]},]}
>> \starttyping[before={\blank[disable]},after={\blank[disable]},]
>> 5. this is typing (and has space below, even with
>> [before={\blank[disable]},after={\blank[disable]},])
>> \stoptyping
>> This is a line below.
>> \hairline
>> This is a line above \type{\starttyping[before={\blank[order:99,0pt]}},\\
>> \null\type{ after={\blank[order:111,disable]}]}
>> \starttyping[before={\blank[order:99,0pt]},after={\blank[order:111,disable]},]
>> 6. this is typing (space above cancelled, space below still there, even
>> with after={\blank[order:111,disable] (or order:1,...)
>> \stoptyping
>> This is a line below.
>> \stoptext
>> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>> Attached is the PDF I get when I run ConTeXt on the example above.
>> Q1: I had hoped that before=, and after=, would work as well when I have
>> \setupwhitespace [big]
>> as when the whitespace is (I assume) [none], but that didn't work.
>> Can someone explain the Zen of why I am still getting space in this
>> case?
>> (I first speculated that \startyping does something like putting out
>> the larger of two vertical space amounts (the \parskip and its default
>> before= and after= amounts), but that doesn't seem to be a full
>> explanation.)
>> Q2: I tried various and sundry incantations to remove the space above and
>> below the typing. As seen, I did manage to remove the "above" space,
>> but the "below" space has resisted my pathetic attempts (some shown
>> above, others not included here) to remove it.
>> Can someone explain to me how I can remove the "below" space?
>> (Or point me to a part of some documentation that explains it?)
> \setupwhitespace
> [big]
> \setuptyping
> [before={\blank[disable]},
> after={\blank[nowhite]}]
> \starttext
> Before
> \starttyping
> Inbetween
> \stoptyping
> After
> \stoptext
Wolfgang,
thanks very much for the help. I had tried \blank[nowhite], but for
before=, not realizing it only works for after=.
Jim
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