Am 03.02.25 um 22:12 schrieb Paul Schalck via ntg-context:
Hello,

I'm trying to set up typescripts for a few classic TTC font collections shipped 
with macOS (see script below).

No problems with:

/System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next Condensed.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Avenir Next.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Avenir.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental/Charter.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental/Futura.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental/Seravek.ttc

However, the kerning and the standard ligatures aren't picked up by ConTeXt on 
those:

/System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Palatino.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Times.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental/Baskerville.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental/Bodoni 72.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental/Didot.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental/GillSans.ttc
/System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental/Hoefler Text.ttc

As an example, running

mtxrun --script fonts --list --info --file Optima.ttc

gives:

mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       | mapping   : 1
mtx-fonts       | fontname  : optimaextrablack
mtx-fonts       | fullname  : optimaextrablack
mtx-fonts       | filename  : /System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc
mtx-fonts       | family    : optima
mtx-fonts       | weight    : black
mtx-fonts       | style     : normal
mtx-fonts       | width     : normal
mtx-fonts       | variant   : normal
mtx-fonts       | subfont   : 5
fonts           | otf loading | loading '/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc', 
hash 'optima'
otf reader      | ignoring empty kern table of feature 'kern'
fonts           | otf loading | loading done
fonts           | otf loading | saving '/System/Library/Fonts/Optima.ttc' in 
cache
system          | lua | compiling 
'/Users/benutzer/.local/share/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/otl/optima.tma'
 into 
'/Users/benutzer/.local/share/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/otl/optima.tmd'
system          | lua | dumping 
'/Users/benutzer/.local/share/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/otl/optima.tma'
 into 
'/Users/benutzer/.local/share/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/otl/optima.tmd'
 stripped
fonts           | otf loading | loading, optimizing, packing and caching time 
0.004
mtx-fonts       |

It seems that ConTeXt cannot find the kern values ("ignoring empty kern table of 
feature 'kern'"). What I usually do when I encounter kerning issues with older 
TrueType fonts is to generate new ones with FontForge. It never fails. I wonder though if 
there is a clean, native ConTeXt solution to this.

Testing environment:
- LuaMetaTeX 2.11.06 20241230 + ConTeXt LMTX 2024.12.30 (the current version)
- macOS Sequoia 15.3. I'm assuming that most TTC files on older Mac systems are 
identical, given their internal version date.

Why do you think these fonts have kern tables at all?
I looked at Optima.ttc with Fontforge and can’t find one.

Hraban
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