Gerion Entrup schrieb am 27.08.2024 um 23:29:
Am Dienstag, 27. August 2024, 22:30:16 MESZ schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Gerion Entrup schrieb am 27.08.2024 um 21:28:
Hi,

I played around with different fonts, especially Bitstream XCharter and 
Overpass (http://overpassfont.org/) and wanted to combine them.
However, I see some issues regarding ligatures, kerning and obliques/italics.

Here is a minimal example:
```
\definefontfeature[default][mode=node, kern=yes, liga=yes]
% more features
% [mode=node, kern=yes, liga=yes, tlig=yes, itlg=yes, ccmp=yes, language=dflt, 
protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
There is no need to set default features like ligatures and kerning, the
better alternative here is to use

      \definefontfeature [default] [default] [protrusion=quality,...]

which adds additional settings to the default set.

\definefontfamily [myfont][roman][xcharter]
\definefontfamily [myfont][sansserif][overpass][rscale=0.93]
\definefontfamily [myfont][teletype][overpass][rscale=0.93]
\definefontfamily [myfont][mono][overpassmono][rscale=0.93]
\definetypeface   [myfont][mathematics][math] [xcharter]

\setupbodyfont[myfont, 11pt]

\startTEXpage

\showfontkerns

               Vitae, Vase, LT, VA, Y., Effizient, abcdel™, \italic{effi 
abcdel™}, \slanted{effi abcdel™}\\
\style[sans]{Vitae, Vase, LT, VA, Y., Effizient, abcdel™, \italic{effi 
abcdel™}, \slanted{effi abcdel™}}\\
\style[mono]{Vitae, Vase, LT, VA, Y., Effizient, abcdel™, \italic{effi 
abcdel™}, \slanted{effi abcdel™}}\\

\showbodyfont[myfont]

\stopTEXpage
```
It produces the PDF in the attachment. I'm struggling with several things:
- xcharter seems to have no kerning applied. It is listed as font feature, 
though. Is it correct to have no kerning at all for that font?
The font has kerning information but none for characters in the ASCII range.
Good to know. Especially for the "Va" in "Vase", I expected kerning (it looks 
not equally spaced currently).


- xcharter also have no ligatures (at least it doesn't look like that). That is 
listed as font feature, too, although only for italic and slanted. According to 
https://tug.org/FontCatalogue/xcharter/ there are ligatures in the font.
There are ligatures for ff[il].
They are defined in the font, but they are not used in the PDF output, aren't they? For example in the "ffi" 
in "Effizient" the "f" is not connected with the "i", while the ligature glyph has a 
connection there.

You have to change the value of the script tag because the don't set them for the dflt script.

\definefontfeature[default][default][script=latn]

\definefontfamily[myfont][rm][xcharter]

\setupbodyfont[myfont]

\showmakeup[glyph]

\starttext

ff fi fl ffi ffl fb fh fk

\feature[-][ligatures]

ff fi fl ffi ffl fb fh fk

\stoptext

I attached a screenshot for comparison. The ligature was generated with 
"\ShowCompleteFont{name:xcharter*default}{11pt}{1}" (with the fnt-10 module).
It is, however, noticeable that the whole xcharter font is thicker in the 
output of \ShowCompleteFont. Is this part of the reason?

When you load a font by name use one which is listed in the table you get with "mtxrun --script fonts --list --all  --pattern=xcharter*". In this case the table is

identifier            familyname         fontname filename                   subfont   instances

xcharterbold          xcharter           xcharterbold XCharter-Bold.otf
xcharterbolditalic    xcharter           xcharterbolditalic XCharter-BoldItalic.otf xcharterboldslanted   xcharter           xcharterboldslanted XCharter-BoldSlanted.otf
xcharteritalic        xcharter           xcharteritalic XCharter-Italic.otf
xchartermath          xchartermath       xchartermath XCharter-Math.otf
xchartermathbold      xchartermathbold   xchartermathbold XCharter-Math-Bold.otf
xchartermathmedium    xchartermath       xchartermath XCharter-Math.otf
xchartermathregular   xchartermath       xchartermath XCharter-Math.otf
xcharternormal        xcharter           xcharteritalic XCharter-Italic.otf
xcharterregular       xcharter           xcharterroman XCharter-Roman.otf
xcharterroman         xcharter           xcharterroman XCharter-Roman.otf
xcharterslanted       xcharter           xcharterslanted XCharter-Slanted.otf

and as you can see there is no entry "xcharter". In your case context loaded the bold version of the font but when you use "xcharterroman" as name the document shows the normal upright version.

- Overpass has a glyph for the ae ligature. Is it normal that it is not used as 
a ligature for ae?
This seems to be a stupid decision to replace ae by default with a
ligature, maybe dependent on the language but not for all of them.
Ok, I've seen it here as (somewhat) common ligature: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligature_(writing)#Computer_typesetting
But there is also mentioned that TeX just has ff, fi, fl, ffi and ffl by 
default.

What is available or not depends on the font and even then there can be differences between different version of a font.

Wolfgang

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