hi ALL  ,
  I want to calculate the number of hops in my network 
  I get 3 replies from ns-users so I tried this 3 possibilities :
   1)is to use $ns_ new-trace  and after I use the parmaeter Pf whitch 
calculate the number  of hops but when i add in my script 
     $ns_ new-trace  I get a lot of errors which I don't anderstand 
  2)so i searched in the the net and found thant we must declare 
     $ns_ use-newtrace to use the new trace format  and after we must use the 
parmaeter Pf whitch calculate the number  of hops
  but when i use  $ns_ use-newtrace  i don't get this  "-Pf" in my trace files 
???
  what is the difference between $ns_ use-newtrace and $ns_ new-trace?
  i found also that "-Pf" is get with cbr or tcp  traffic , or in my case i 
don't use any one of them ,so it is the raison that i don't get the "-Pf"  in 
my trace files 
  am I wrong ?
  3) the third methode is to use the old format trace ,the 16 colon gives the 
number of hops 
  but i don't find any document whitch talking about this methode ????
   
  4)I found also that in new trace  format for DSR AND AODV  "-ph" gives number 
of hops 
  is it write ?
   
  I must use the 3 protocols : DSR DSDV AODV in order to compare their 
performance
   
  so please if there is any one can tell me what can I do 
  which method among the fourth cited ??????
  Thank a ton in advance 

                
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