Hi All,
I'm not aiming to bash anyone or anything that someone has put in place,
just trying to work out a solution to an ever growing issue - so let's be
constructive!
So we all know that npm goes down occasionally, it's only happening more
and more as popularity grows.
And then guess what, we all get mighty annoyed and blame "npm" and say it
shouldn't happen. Well guess what, we are a community, so let's try and
sort it out as a community.
So there's many different options out there:
1. Public mirror of the couchdb install
- But how do people access this, they can't currently unless you
change some settings in your npmrc file
2. Private mirror of the couchdb install
- As a business, I want stability on something I rely on, so let's
take a private mirror and push our private modules to it while we're at
it
- then we know our replica will be available
3. Cache Proxy
- Using something like nexus oss to proxy npm -
(https://issues.sonatype.org/browse/NEXUS-5852?page=com.atlassian.streams.streams-jira-plugin:activity-stream-issue-tab)
- Or something like Artifactory -
(https://www.jfrog.com/jira/browse/RTFACT-5930)
4. Add more servers, more official npm mirrors around the world (under
registry.npmjs.org)
- Is there an official way for people to donate to the cause?
- Can you donate money?
- Can you donate a server + bandwidth?
5. Make it easy to have a list of public mirrors
There's probably more but that's all I can think of right now.
But these all have their own issues.
When we talk about making a replica, whether it be public or private -
you've got a 100gb replica (last time i checked it wasn't far off this), it
may even be more than this now. That's alot of data; I can completely
understand why npm "goes down" so often, it's having to store and transfer
all this data...
So there's solutions to the issue of size - take all of the artifacts out
of couchdb for instance and put them on a cdn, then npm just becomes meta
data, and wouldn't be so massive, which would solve replication issues,
with the option of a private npm replica storing the artifact in couchdb -
with a backup going back to github/bitbucket's tag artifact or whatever.
How many public npm replicas are there out on the net? If there really are
a load, then why not allow a list of npm servers in the npmrc file? If this
all gets agreed, then let's put it into action. Seems like it would be a
small-ish change to npm?
Is there anything we can do to help these other projects like
nexus/artifactory/a tonne more out there to move along quicker?
Are there any other solutions out there? Let's get together and try and
sort it, or at least come up with a plan on how to tackle this and make it
public so that people know what's going on,
I know people have talked about these things before but I've never seen
anything come from them, so what's come of them?
I was also wondering, are there any public stats on downtime? Like a
pingdom report looking at registry.npmjs.org?
EDIT - After looking for status page for npm i saw there is pingdom reports
- http://stats.pingdom.com/d50hxzpzk7x4/650599
Could we also get a public status page for npm? Something
like https://www.statuspage.io/ - the last thing you want when npm goes
down is for people to carry on trying to access npm and make the issue
worse. I'm sure they'd donate an account to npm...
EDIT - I've just remembered about http://status.npmjs.org/
Node.js is taking off, we've seen countless times how package growth is
just growing and growing, it's absolutely amazing,
Now let's all try and help, as a community, if there is already something
out there on the net, about plans etc can you point me to it and I'll close
this topic down,
If anyone has any other ideas, bring them up!
Dan
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