On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Jérémy Lal <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Debian has a nodejs-legacy package that symlinks /usr/bin/node to 
> /usr/bin/nodejs...
>
> Jérémy.
>
>
While I appreciate this, Debian policy clearly states that no package is to 
depend on it. And it has the word "legacy" in it. So clearly the beaten 
path is to use the regular nodejs package.

On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:28:39 AM UTC-5, Mark Hahn wrote:
>
> > Let's face it, it was a little bit arrogant to use as the binary name.
>
> No, it was a simple non-arrogant mistake.  Imagemagick using convert and 
> several other common verbs is arrogant.
>
>
I agree with you about imagemagick. And it seems you agree with me about 
the binary name "node" being a mistake.
 

>
> Having the previous small number of ham operators using "node" change 
> their scripts would have been orders of magnitude easier than what is 
> happening now on debian with nodejs. Don't bring debian's problems to the 
> rest of us.
>
>
This is exactly the kind of arrogance I am talking about. While I agree 
that the binary name "node" was equally a poor decision for the ham 
operator package as it was for node.js, they've had the name since 1994. 
And why was the name taken? Because it's a such a generic word.

There are 3 parties here.

 * Debian
 * the ham ax25 package
 * node.js

If you read the bug reports you see that Debian has policies to cover this 
sort of thing because they've dealt with it before, and their only goal is 
to satisfy users. Here is Jérémy from this thread asking the other package 
kindly if they would change their name: 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hams/2010/08/msg00031.html
As Jérémy mentioned there is a legacy package in debian to try to assuage 
the situation. There's not anything else Debian can do.

As for the ax25 package, it has been around since at least 1994. How can 
you expect them to change their name?

The only party left is node.js. It's time to admit a mistake and correct it.

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