Reply inline... On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Dennis Kane wrote:
> Have I ever seen a bunch of google links that talk a lot of smack, but that > don't really deliver anything of substance? Why, yes I have, hahaha :D! > > I shared it because I thought you'd find it interesting. > Seriously, though, I know there have been quite a few attempts over the > years to do things like this in our browsers, but the technology has only > caught up to the "dreams" over the last couple years. I think it's really > taken a massive undertaking like the V8 project to allow things like this to > become truly viable. > > The guy who created that project I shared with you, works on v8 an chromium. > Anyway, the entire concept of a clean, intuitive browser based "operating > system" is something that traditional online content providers (based on link > clicking ad revenue) should be positively petrified of. > > The entire business model of the current Web is that there be an > incomprehensible array of sites, each with incomprehensible interfaces, that > reduces each one of us to rabid, slobbering link clickers. From what I've > seen of the recent crop of Google IO videos on youtube, there are some real > efforts to try to inject some sanity in our online experiences. But Google > is not bigger than the entire universe of web developers who are each > beholden to the profit motives of the corporations that they work for. > > We know that the Web is an ugly mess. The entire problem at hand is how to > go about locating remote resources. Currently, we type text strings into > input boxes, and are met with thousands and millions of choices. And even > when we do find the "best" site to help us out, there is often very little > help in deciphering how to navigate the thing. But we all know how to > navigate our own native operating systems, because we collectively have a > decades long history of doing this. There is just something about windows, > icons, and folders that just "makes sense" to us in a very basic way. > > Now, with this browser based OS concept in full throttle, we can start > thinking about organizing the remote resouces that are most important to us > in highly comprehensible ways. Have you seen the work on Firefox OS? > Then, once the organization makes sense, we can actually start to reason > about them, and then develop truly semantic interfaces (APIs) into their > content. > > I mean, all of Google's talk of tomorrow's cutting edge web applications is > great and all, but if the problem of locating them persists, then it is > really all for naught. We really need to begin thinking about the Web at a > higher level than just one-to-one mappings between HTTP URLs and pages of > HTML content. > > > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:17:14 PM UTC-4, Rick Waldron wrote: > > Dennis, > > > > Have you ever seen this? > > https://www.google.com/search?q=webos+erik+arvidsson > > > > -Rick > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Dennis Kane wrote: > > > > > I was thinking of just responding to this old thread > > > (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/nodejs/bEhSbsm24Y4), > > > in which I talk about the browser based Desktop that I've been working > > > on, but the new thing I've been doing for the past week is so superior > > > that I thought it deserved a completely new thead. By the way, I know > > > this forum is all about server side Javascript, but there is not really > > > any serious place one can go on the web that talks about the client side. > > > Besides, with socket.io (http://socket.io) & websockets... I don't > > > really make much of a distinction between client and server anymore. I > > > just know that there's no reason to do a document.getElementById() call > > > in node :) > > > > > > This new thing is a totally shocking clone of OS X. I knew I was going > > > to have to start over from the ground up, because my previous code base > > > was so sh*tty, haha! I have really been concentrating on getting a nice, > > > tight little API that developers will positively drool over. I don't > > > want to make this thing publicly available for many reasons... but you > > > can check out a youtube vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq_W19QokXk) > > > that shows it in action, and I still have my same old crappy prototype > > > online at http://luvluvluv.info (http://luvluvluv.info/). Well, > > > hopefully this is proof that I am able to do some cool stuff, and > > > hopefully summa yous will want to start being my friend now, LOL!!! > > > > > > And get this... the current, uncompressed js file size is only 54kb! > > > > > > -- > > > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > > > Posting guidelines: > > > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "nodejs" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected] > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. 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