Dear Palang,

If you plan to build a covariate model for a parameter, it must mean that
you have reasonable information about this parameter in a rather large
sample of patients. It doesn't sound that you like a prior for this
parameter - there should be enough info in the data you have available.

Best regards,
Mats

Mats Karlsson, PhD
Professor of Pharmacometrics

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From: owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On
Behalf Of Palang Chotsiri
Sent: 22 June 2012 19:13
To: nmusers@globomaxnm.com
Subject: [NMusers] Priors and covariate model building

Dear NMusers,

I am trying to model a sparse dataset by using the benefit of previously
published parameter estimates (based on rich data sampling). When applying
the $PRIOR subroutine, the THETAs and ETAs estimates of the new dataset are
reasonable and the model fit satisfactory.

My question now relates to covariate modeling when a prior is applied. No
significant covariate relationships are included in my prior model (apart
from allometric scaling). The prior was derived based on rich PK sampling
but a fairly small sample size. The later sparse sampling study is conducted
in a larger group compare to the previous study. This might render us a
greater power to detect covariate relationships based on this dataset.

Or problem lies in that we do not know how we can correctly conduct a
covariate model search with this model? The parameter estimates of the prior
are conditioned on the covariate distribution in the dataset on which it was
derived and are not necessarily relevant when a covariate relationship is
included.

Perhaps there is no ideal solution but we would be grateful for any ideas on
how to best conduct covariate model building when a prior is used.

Best regards,
Palang Chotsiri & Martin Bergstrand

Mahidol-Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit, Bangkok 10400, THAILAND


Ps. Ideal is of course to model both datasets together but that might not
always be possible for practical reasons.

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