Dear Matt and all,

 

In the code you gave, DEL is a protection when F=0 as it may be in a lag-time 
model, not only for IWRES but also for the model as such. You can’t have a 
proportional error model with a prediction of zero. Add an absolute error 
component or switch from a lag to a transit compartment delay model are two 
possibilities. In general, I find IWRES useful for diagnosing the residual 
error model by plotting abs(IWRES) versus IPRED when I have reasonable amount 
of data per subject. An appropriate error model should result in a lack of 
trend. Others may have other ways of assuring that the residual error model is 
appropriate. Better alternatives are always welcome.

 

Best regards,

Mats

 

Mats Karlsson, PhD

Professor of Pharmacometrics

Dept of Pharmaceutical Biosciences

Uppsala University

Sweden

 

Postal address: Box 591, 751 24 Uppsala, Sweden

Phone +46 18 4714105

Fax + 46 18 4714003

 

From: owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On 
Behalf Of Fidler,Matt,FORT WORTH,R&D
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:30 PM
To: Nick Holford; nmusers
Subject: RE: [NMusers] basic questions...

 

Paola,

 

I agree with Nick that there may be little use for the DEL and W variables.

 

The standard coding may be something like:

 

$ERROR

IPRED = F

IRES = DV-IPRED

W = THETA(#)*F

DEL = 0

IF(W.EQ.0) DEL = 1

IWRES = IRES/(W+DEL)

Y = F+EPS(1)*W

 

The W represents the “weight” of the error model.  In the above example this is 
proportional error.

 

The DEL is used to keep the unlikely divide by zero error from appearing when 
IRES/W is calculated.  When W=0, IRES=RES.  

 

Like Nick, I’m don’t find too much use in this.  If W = 0, I think the IWRES 
should be missing instead of calculated as RES.

 

Matt.

 

From: owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Holford
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:03 AM
To: nmusers
Subject: Re: [NMusers] basic questions...

 

Paola,

On 31/03/2011 3:02 p.m., di Gion, Paola wrote: 

Dear NONMEM users,

 

as beginners in NONMEM we have the following questions:

 

- What is the meaning of "DEL" and "W" (in the subroutine $ERROR)?

They are sort of like a virus that is spread by copying and pasting from old 
control streams passed around among beginners.

These are not standard NM-TRAN variables. Some people like to use them to 
create some diagnostic variables like IWRES. I  find no use for them.



 

- What is the meaning of "TOL" and when should it be used?

TOL is an option for the differential equation solving subroutines (ADVAN6, 
ADVAN8, ADVAN9 and ADVAN13 (NM7 only).
It specifies the tolerance for the numerical solution of the differential 
equations. A reasonable starting value is TOL=6 for NM7 (with NSIG=2 and 
SIGL=6). 



 

- Assumed we need to use $DES, is this possible only with NONMEM version 7 or 
can we use it also in NONMEM 6?

You can use $DES with any version of NONMEM. It usually runs faster with NM6 
than NM7. However, in some cases ADVAN13 in NONMEM7 will run faster than 
ADVAN6,8.9.  Its hard to predict which ADVAN is best so just try different ones 
and use the one that runs fastest.

 

 

Thanks a lot and kind regards from rainy Cologne

Its raining in Cape Town too!

 

Paola & Lisa

 

 

 

-- 
Nick Holford, Professor Clinical Pharmacology
Dept Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology
University of Auckland,85 Park Rd,Private Bag 92019,Auckland,New Zealand
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