Thanks for the responses guys. I'll try and follow all the advise and search google more often.
Also Tobias, I wasn't sending emails one after the other. They were all in response to emails from Liam directed at me. It kept getting harder to spot the messages with all the text from previous emails, so when I wrote my last response, I deleted all the previous email text so it was only my text visible. Again, thank you all. On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 10:49 PM <nginx-requ...@nginx.org> wrote: > > Send nginx mailing list submissions to > nginx@nginx.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nginx-requ...@nginx.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nginx-ow...@nginx.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nginx digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 2 (Matthew Ngaha) > 2. Re: nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 2 (bruce) > 3. Re: nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 2 (Tobias Damisch) > 4. Re: nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 2 (Mark Mielke) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 11:52:07 +0100 > From: Matthew Ngaha <chigga...@gmail.com> > To: nginx@nginx.org > Subject: Re: nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 2 > Message-ID: > <CACzNyA3UNFFm=0tg8p_koe8w11sgfsw122if53zadqt1vnk...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Like I said, those explanations are for people with Linux/programming > knowledge. I'm struggling to understand what's being said. I.e this > sentence is hard to comprehend: > > """Variables are e.g. useful for related repositories like packman > (http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/$releasever), which shall > always fit the installed distribution, even after a distribution > upgrade. To help performing a distribution upgrade, the value of > $releasever can be overwritten in zypper using the --releasever global > option. This way you can easily switch all repositories using > $releasever to the new version (provided the server layouts did not > change and new repos are already available).""" > > What do they mean by related repository? What's an installed distribution? > I can make some sense of it, but a quick layman's explanation would > have been better than reading through webpages trying to decipher > technical terms. Which is the very reason why I asked here to get > guided assistance. > The 2nd link (forum) is not needed. SLES, which I didn't understand > was mentioned in the installation guide, which is why reading the > installation guide's website just adds more confusing terms. I don't > need to browse the web just to understand a single term. This is time > consuming if there are a lot of terms I don't understand. You've > already provided 3 links, how many more do I need for such a simple > task? > I'm not begging for your help so don't worry about it, I'll try asking AI. > Later. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 07:30:56 -0400 > From: bruce <badoug...@gmail.com> > To: nginx@nginx.org > Subject: Re: nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 2 > Message-ID: > <cap16ngrcp-1p5un-agfdy9vdbfhkxhe8rhs1+zmy0b1iabo...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > hi. > > part of what happens in some software, is that the docs are either hard to > comprehend for the beginner, the docs require other docs, which require... > , or docs don't really exist!! > > writing good clear docs with examples at a level that beginners grasp, and > keeping updated docs is a beast!!.. same with testing!! > > good luck > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2025, 6:53 AM Matthew Ngaha <chigga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Like I said, those explanations are for people with Linux/programming > > knowledge. I'm struggling to understand what's being said. I.e this > > sentence is hard to comprehend: > > > > """Variables are e.g. useful for related repositories like packman > > (http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/$releasever), which shall > > always fit the installed distribution, even after a distribution > > upgrade. To help performing a distribution upgrade, the value of > > $releasever can be overwritten in zypper using the --releasever global > > option. This way you can easily switch all repositories using > > $releasever to the new version (provided the server layouts did not > > change and new repos are already available).""" > > > > What do they mean by related repository? What's an installed distribution? > > I can make some sense of it, but a quick layman's explanation would > > have been better than reading through webpages trying to decipher > > technical terms. Which is the very reason why I asked here to get > > guided assistance. > > The 2nd link (forum) is not needed. SLES, which I didn't understand > > was mentioned in the installation guide, which is why reading the > > installation guide's website just adds more confusing terms. I don't > > need to browse the web just to understand a single term. This is time > > consuming if there are a lot of terms I don't understand. You've > > already provided 3 links, how many more do I need for such a simple > > task? > > I'm not begging for your help so don't worry about it, I'll try asking AI. > > Later. > > _______________________________________________ > > nginx mailing list > > nginx@nginx.org > > https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx/attachments/20250707/541f5fa7/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 14:07:10 +0200 > From: Tobias Damisch <tobias_dami...@gmx.at> > To: nginx@nginx.org > Subject: Re: nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 2 > Message-ID: <910af58d-99ab-41bb-a90c-e1f890f81...@gmx.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi Matthew, > > I can still remember when I was a n00b, so I'll show some mercy here. > > 1.) Learn how to email. You can start by providing a meaningful and > descriptive subject and checking if you actually want to send an > email before doing so. > > 2.) Learn how to google. I did a quick "opensuse install nginx" search, > and think the first search result is quite a good guide from > opensuse themselves: https://en.opensuse.org/Nginx > > 3.) Nginx pros please correct me if I'm wrong, but I would start by > installing nginx from the official opensuse repos with a simple > "sudo zypper install nginx" - more on starting/enabling nginx is in > the link above. > If you can't manage configuring the nginx version provided by > opensuse, compiling it from source won't improve anything for you. > > 4.) Learn how to Linux. https://opensuse-guide.org is probably a good > starting point for you. If you have questions relating more to Linux > in general and opensuse in particular than to nginx, maybe ask on > https://forums.opensuse.org ? > > And now, experiment a bit, and please stop sending one email after the > other! If noone answers on a mailinglist, maybe it's just not the right > crowd to ask. > > Cheers and good luck to you, > > Tobias > > > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2025, 6:53 AM Matthew Ngaha <chigga...@gmail.com > > <mailto:chigga...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Like I said, those explanations are for people with Linux/programming > > knowledge. I'm struggling to understand what's being said. I.e this > > sentence is hard to comprehend: > > > > """Variables are e.g. useful for related repositories like packman > > (http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/$releasever <http:// > > ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/$releasever>), which shall > > always fit the installed distribution, even after a distribution > > upgrade. To help performing a distribution upgrade, the value of > > $releasever can be overwritten in zypper using the --releasever global > > option. This way you can easily switch all repositories using > > $releasever to the new version (provided the server layouts did not > > change and new repos are already available).""" > > > > What do they mean by related repository? What's an installed > > distribution? > > I can make some sense of it, but a quick layman's explanation would > > have been better than reading through webpages trying to decipher > > technical terms. Which is the very reason why I asked here to get > > guided assistance. > > The 2nd link (forum) is not needed. SLES, which I didn't understand > > was mentioned in the installation guide, which is why reading the > > installation guide's website just adds more confusing terms. I don't > > need to browse the web just to understand a single term. This is time > > consuming if there are a lot of terms I don't understand. You've > > already provided 3 links, how many more do I need for such a simple > > task? > > I'm not begging for your help so don't worry about it, I'll try > > asking AI. > > Later. > > _______________________________________________ > > nginx mailing list > > nginx@nginx.org <mailto:nginx@nginx.org> > > https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx <https:// > > mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nginx mailing list > > nginx@nginx.org > > https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 17:46:40 -0400 > From: Mark Mielke <mark.mie...@gmail.com> > To: nginx@nginx.org > Subject: Re: nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 2 > Message-ID: > <calm7yl2axcutx0jdcllukbmcefvozx+ersbj66ysufpakxw...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Also, words mean things. When one doesn't understand the words it is easy > to presume that it could be explained more simply, but actually it can be > explained less accurately. > > If the target of the document is people with no background, it may be > important to stick to the basics and gloss over complications, like how in > primary grade school they might teach that divided by zero equals zero, > because the students are not ready for the more complex topics. > > But the target of nginx docs is not people with no background. If you want > this, I'm sure there are books you can purchase which approach this at a > basics level. The reference documentation is required to be accurate. > > I am sure the docs can be improved, but they might be improved by becoming > more complex and covering more things. I have a personal complaint about > nginx docs that they are ambiguous in some respects and I have to read the > same text multiple times before concluding that it doesn't really say what > will happen in the situation I am thinking about, so I will have to test it > myself, or read the code. But if they made the docs more accurate they > might be even less accessible to people without the background to > understand them. > > -- > Mark Mielke <mark.mie...@gmail.com> > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2025, 8:07 a.m. Tobias Damisch <tobias_dami...@gmx.at> wrote: > > > Hi Matthew, > > > > I can still remember when I was a n00b, so I'll show some mercy here. > > > > 1.) Learn how to email. You can start by providing a meaningful and > > descriptive subject and checking if you actually want to send an > > email before doing so. > > > > 2.) Learn how to google. I did a quick "opensuse install nginx" search, > > and think the first search result is quite a good guide from > > opensuse themselves: https://en.opensuse.org/Nginx > > > > 3.) Nginx pros please correct me if I'm wrong, but I would start by > > installing nginx from the official opensuse repos with a simple > > "sudo zypper install nginx" - more on starting/enabling nginx is in > > the link above. > > If you can't manage configuring the nginx version provided by > > opensuse, compiling it from source won't improve anything for you. > > > > 4.) Learn how to Linux. https://opensuse-guide.org is probably a good > > starting point for you. If you have questions relating more to Linux > > in general and opensuse in particular than to nginx, maybe ask on > > https://forums.opensuse.org ? > > > > And now, experiment a bit, and please stop sending one email after the > > other! If noone answers on a mailinglist, maybe it's just not the right > > crowd to ask. > > > > Cheers and good luck to you, > > > > Tobias > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2025, 6:53 AM Matthew Ngaha <chigga...@gmail.com > > > <mailto:chigga...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > Like I said, those explanations are for people with Linux/programming > > > knowledge. I'm struggling to understand what's being said. I.e this > > > sentence is hard to comprehend: > > > > > > """Variables are e.g. useful for related repositories like packman > > > (http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/$releasever <http:// > > > ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/packman/suse/$releasever>), which shall > > > always fit the installed distribution, even after a distribution > > > upgrade. To help performing a distribution upgrade, the value of > > > $releasever can be overwritten in zypper using the --releasever > > global > > > option. This way you can easily switch all repositories using > > > $releasever to the new version (provided the server layouts did not > > > change and new repos are already available).""" > > > > > > What do they mean by related repository? What's an installed > > > distribution? > > > I can make some sense of it, but a quick layman's explanation would > > > have been better than reading through webpages trying to decipher > > > technical terms. Which is the very reason why I asked here to get > > > guided assistance. > > > The 2nd link (forum) is not needed. SLES, which I didn't understand > > > was mentioned in the installation guide, which is why reading the > > > installation guide's website just adds more confusing terms. I don't > > > need to browse the web just to understand a single term. This is time > > > consuming if there are a lot of terms I don't understand. You've > > > already provided 3 links, how many more do I need for such a simple > > > task? > > > I'm not begging for your help so don't worry about it, I'll try > > > asking AI. > > > Later. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > nginx mailing list > > > nginx@nginx.org <mailto:nginx@nginx.org> > > > https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx <https:// > > > mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > nginx mailing list > > > nginx@nginx.org > > > https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx > > _______________________________________________ > > nginx mailing list > > nginx@nginx.org > > https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx/attachments/20250707/6f1eb4f4/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > nginx mailing list > nginx@nginx.org > https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx > > > ------------------------------ > > End of nginx Digest, Vol 178, Issue 3 > ************************************* _______________________________________________ nginx mailing list nginx@nginx.org https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
