On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Salvatore Orlando <
salvatore.orla...@eu.citrix.com> wrote:

> ** **
>
> For this reason I believe that Quantum API needs at least a WADL file. I’m
> voting for WADL in order to be consistent with the other Openstack projects,
>
>

That seems like the right call if that is what the other projects have
standardized on.  Want to file an Essex BP? (no session needed, but a BP
will help us track this and assign it to a milestone).

dan


> but I’m not against any other formal specification, be it XSD, Relax-NG,
> Schematron, or JSON schema. ****
>
> I apologise if no formal description has been provided for Quantum API 1.0;
> a formal description will be provided soon. I hope we can keep this thread
> open, as client applications are IMHO the most important resource for the
> success of the Quantum service!****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for reviewing the documentation,****
>
> Salvatore****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Andy Bierman [mailto:bierm...@brocade.com]
> *Sent:* 22 September 2011 19:33
> *To:* Dan Wendlandt
>
> *Cc:* Salvatore Orlando; netstack@lists.launchpad.net
> *Subject:* RE: [Netstack] API documentation ready for review****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi,****
>
> ** **
>
> OK – I guess it is clear enough that the only allowed strings for
> port-state
> are ACTIVE and DOWN, and hopefully the behavior for ACTIVE or DOWN
> is roughly the same on all implementations.****
>
> ** **
>
> It’s more than a first step.  It is very complete, except for the formal
> schema..****
>
> Our application developers actually use them in their tools.****
>
> They will have to be generated from the text, if not included.****
>
> Since JSON doesn’t have attributes (good!), a separate grammar  for XML is
> needed.****
>
> ** **
>
> (Here is a start, hope it’s right)****
>
>     ****
>
> Port =
>        element port {****
>
>           attribute id { text },
>           attribute state { “ACTIVE” | “DOWN” },
>           element attachment {
>               attribute id { test }
>           }?
>       }****
>
>    ****
>
> Ports =
>      element ports { Port* }****
>
> ** **
>
> Network =
>     element network {
>        attribute id { text },
>        attribute name { text },
>        Ports?
>     }****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Andy****
>
> ** **
>
>          ****
>
> *From:* Dan Wendlandt [mailto:d...@nicira.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:36 AM
> *To:* Andy Bierman
> *Cc:* Salvatore Orlando; netstack@lists.launchpad.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Netstack] API documentation ready for review****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Andy Bierman <bierm...@brocade.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Hi,
>
> I read the API spec (again) and I have the same comment as last time.
>
> There are no normative definitions for any output from Quantum.
> IMO, a RelaxNG pattern is needed for every 'XML blob' that is defined
> by example.
>
> An application needs to know the XML or JSON structure to expect.
> It needs to know the list of enum strings to expect.
> How can I write a 'switch statement' in my application code
> for port-state when none of the enums are defined anywhere?
>
> If a formal spec is too hard, then how about specifying the data type
> for every field? (list all enums, and the rest are unconstrained strings?)
>
> If the enums are actually unconstrained strings, then programming to this
> API
> is going to be a 1-off for every plugin.  That seems to be the plan so far.
> If so, the spec should say in bold letters
> "All values returned are implementation-dependent."****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Andy,****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for reviewing the doc.  It is definitely still a work in progress,
> but I think it is a great first step.   ****
>
> ** **
>
> Can you be more specific about the enums that you are having trouble with?
>  The only enum that comes to my mind right away from the "core" API is port
> state, and searching through the doc finds many mentions of the fact that
> "ACTIVE" and "DOWN" are the two valid values for this field: ****
>
> ** **
>
> - Quantum API allows for controlling the administrative state of the port,
> which can be either 'DOWN' or 'ACTIVE'.****
>
> - A port has an administrative state which is either 'DOWN' or 'ACTIVE'.**
> **
>
> - Currently Quantum recognizes two port states: DOWN and ACTIVE.****
>
> ** **
>
> It looks like the call to dump supported versions also has "CURRENT" and
> "FUTURE", which probably could be defined explicitly, but that is a
> fairly peripheral call.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Or am I misunderstanding what you are meaning by saying "enum"?  ****
>
> ** **
>
> None of the values returned by a plugin should be plugin-specific unless
> part of an extension that itself is plugin-specific.  If there's something
> that implies otherwise, we should try and clarify that in the text in the
> document.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> I like the idea of having a more formal specification of the schema (I've
> used JSON schema in the past, though it has its quirks).  Ultimately, this
> is probably an issue we should raise with the larger OpenStack API
> community, as we would ideally all agree on common approach.  I don't see
> any type of formal spec even for "core" OpenStack projects like compute yet
> (
> http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/developer/openstack-compute-api-1.1/content/index.html),
> but perhaps someone more knowledgable in that area can chime in.   I
> definitely think a blueprint to more formally define the spec would be
> welcomed.****
>
> ** **
>
> Dan****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
>  ****
>
>
>
>
> Andy****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: netstack-bounces+biermana=brocade....@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:
> netstack-bounces+biermana=brocade....@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of
> Salvatore Orlando
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:05 PM
> To: netstack@lists.launchpad.net****
>
> Subject: Re: [Netstack] API documentation ready for review
>
> And the documentation got updated again!
>
> This time we removed references to Keystone and reworked the Authentication
> section, trying to conveying the message that at the moment Quantum is not
> integrated with any authentication mechanism, but deployers are free to use
> their favourite mechanisms by appropriately configuring the Quantum
> pipeline.
> Also, Rajaram's contribute on API extensions has been integrated into the
> attached API guide.
>
> Salvatore
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Salvatore Orlando
> > Sent: 20 September 2011 00:56
> > To: Salvatore Orlando; netstack@lists.launchpad.net
> > Subject: RE: API documentation ready for review
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > following your precious feedback, here's an updated version of the API
> > documentation.
> > Special thanks to Dan for his detailed review and for contributing the
> > section on Async behaviour.
> >
> > The branch on launchpad: lp:~salvatore-orlando/quantum/quantum-api-doc
> > has been updated as well.
> >
> > Salvatore
> > ________________________________________
> > From: netstack-
> > bounces+salvatore.orlando=eu.citrix....@lists.launchpad.net [netstack-
> > bounces+salvatore.orlando=eu.citrix....@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf**
> **
>
> > bounces+Of****
>
> > Salvatore Orlando [salvatore.orla...@eu.citrix.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:09 PM
> > To: netstack@lists.launchpad.net
> > Subject: [Netstack] API documentation ready for review
> >
> > Hi Netstackers,
> >
> > The documentation for the Quantum API is now ready for review:
> > https://code.launchpad.net/~salvatore-orlando/quantum/quantum-api-
> > doc/+merge/75588
> > Unfortunately there are no unit tests or compilers for documentation;
> > so I'm pretty sure there are several things to be fixed (page breaks for
> a starter).
> > I would be therefore more than happy if you could have a look at it.
> >
> > In order to make things a bit easier for you, I'm attaching the PDF
> > version of the document, so you won't have to go through the docbook XML!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Salvatore****
>
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