Jay Vosburgh wrote:
Rick Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have to wonder if the full description of the different versions of
being a little bit pregnant is worth it.  Just saying that using
balance-rr will result in reordering seems much more simple to comprehend.


        True, but the different configurations produce very different
levels of reordering.

        There seem to be users out there trying to use balance-rr to
maximize single stream TCP throughput (even with reordering), so I think
the relative badness information is worthwhile.

I will admit to coming from an "if you want a single stream to go faster buy the next higher speed NIC" point of view, which means I pretty much lump all the degrees of reordering badness together.

The relative badness though is likely a _very_ broad space which couldn't be covered adequately in just a paragraph or two. Notice how long my email describing my one experiment ended-up.

For example, I suspect, but have not verified that the one way one might get minimal reordering with many to one would be to have a sender with the many interfaces slow enough to not be able to get ahead of the sum of the NICs in the bond, so the transmit queues all remain at 0, coupled perhaps with NICs all in equal-speed and equal-feed I/O slots.

Start to be able to keep ahead of one or more of the NICs and soon we are starting along a rather long continuum which includes whether there are other concurrent connections, the distribution of send() sized by the applications, whether or not various offloads are enabled etc etc etc...

Also, since balance-rr is strictly an outbound policy, does case three
even enter into it - as you say, that will be up to the switch, which will
be doing whatever it was told or felt like doing regardless of balance-rr
on the bond in the host.


        Point three provides an answer to a question I've been asked
pretty regularly by customers, so I think it's good information.

But since it isn't specific to balance_rr it would seem better placed in a "Switch Considerations" or "Inbound Considerations" section?

Even better would be to be able to start to move away from "etherchannel"
towards the de jure standard's terms, whatever the heck they are :)


        I believe that EtherChannel is the standard term for what we're
talking about here, but it's a Cisco trademark.  I'd guess that most
switch vendors don't come right out and call their "EtherChannel(tm)
compatible" mode exactly that; they call it something else, but it's
still meant to be compatible with EtherChannel.

Well, that assumes that many switch vendors are still including EtherChannel. I know of at least one non-trivial switch vendor which has consolidated on LACP/802.3ad. When that vendor was supporting EtherChannel, they called it such.

rick jones
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