On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > Understood. My point is not that the impact is precisely zero, but > > rather that the impact on optimization is much less hurtful than the > > problems that could arise otherwise, particularly as compilers become > > more aggressive in their optimizations. > > The problems arise because barriers are not used as required. Volatile > has wishy washy semantics and somehow marries memory barriers with data > access. It is clearer to separate the two. Conceptual cleanness usually > translates into better code. If one really wants the volatile then lets > make it explicit and use > > atomic_read_volatile() Completely agreed, again. To summarize again (had done so about ~100 mails earlier in this thread too :-) ... atomic_{read,set}_volatile() -- guarantees volatility also along with atomicity (the two _are_ different concepts after all, irrespective of whether callsites normally want one with the other or not) atomic_{read,set}_nonvolatile() -- only guarantees atomicity, compiler free to elid / coalesce / optimize such accesses, can keep the object in question cached in a local register, leads to smaller text, etc. As to which one should be the default atomic_read() is a question of whether majority of callsites (more weightage to important / hot codepaths, lesser to obscure callsites) want a particular behaviour. Do we have a consensus here? (hoping against hope, probably :-) [ This thread has gotten completely out of hand ... for my mail client alpine as well, it now seems. Reminds of that 1000+ GPLv3 fest :-) ] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html