On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:47:12AM -0700, Wei Wang wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:25 AM Ido Schimmel <ido...@idosch.org> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 09:17:42PM +0300, Ido Schimmel wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:54:13AM -0700, Wei Wang wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 8:42 AM Ido Schimmel <ido...@idosch.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 09:36:51AM -0500, Jesse Hathaway wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 3:31 AM Ido Schimmel <ido...@idosch.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think it's working as expected. Here is my theory: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If CPU0 is executing both the route get request and forwarding > > > > > > > packets > > > > > > > through the directly connected interface, then the following can > > > > > > > happen: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <CPU0, t0> - In process context, per-CPU dst entry cached in the > > > > > > > nexthop > > > > > > > is found. Not yet dumped to user space > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Any CPU, t1> - Routes are added / removed, therefore > > > > > > > invalidating the > > > > > > > cache by bumping 'net->ipv4.rt_genid' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <CPU0, t2> - In softirq, packet is forwarded through the nexthop. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > cached dst entry is found to be invalid. Therefore, it is > > > > > > > replaced by a > > > > > > > newer dst entry. dst_dev_put() is called on old entry which > > > > > > > assigns the > > > > > > > blackhole netdev to 'dst->dev'. This netdev has an ifindex of 0 > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > it is not registered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <CPU0, t3> - After softirq finished executing, your route get > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > from t0 is resumed and the old dst entry is dumped to user space > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > ifindex of 0. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tested this on my system using your script to generate the > > > > > > > route get > > > > > > > requests. I pinned it to the same CPU forwarding packets through > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > nexthop. To constantly invalidate the cache I created another > > > > > > > script > > > > > > > that simply adds and removes IP addresses from an interface. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I stop the packet forwarding or the script that invalidates the > > > > > > > cache, then I don't see any '*' answers to my route get requests. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply and analysis Ido, I tested with an additional > > > > > > script which > > > > > > adds and deletes a route in a loop, as you also saw this increased > > > > > > the > > > > > > frequency of blackhole route replies from the first script. > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. We saw this behavior occurring with TCP connections traversing > > > > > > our routers, > > > > > > though I was able to reproduce it with only local route requests on > > > > > > our router. > > > > > > Would you expect this same behavior for TCP traffic only in the > > > > > > kernel which > > > > > > does not go to userspace? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the problem is in the input path where received packets need to > > > > > be > > > > > forwarded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. These blackhole routes occur even though our main routing table > > > > > > is not > > > > > > changing, however a separate route table managed by bird on the > > > > > > Linux router is > > > > > > changing. Is this still expected behavior given that the ip-rules > > > > > > and main > > > > > > route table used by these route requests are not changing? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there is a per-netns counter that is incremented whenever cached > > > > > dst entries need to be invalidated. Since it is per-netns it is > > > > > incremented regardless of the routing table to which your insert the > > > > > route. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. We were previously rejecting these packets with an iptables rule > > > > > > which sent > > > > > > an ICMP prohibited message to the sender, this caused TCP > > > > > > connections to break > > > > > > with a EHOSTUNREACH, should we be silently dropping these packets > > > > > > instead? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. If we should just be dropping these packets, why does the kernel > > > > > > not drop > > > > > > them instead of letting them traverse the iptables rules? > > > > > > > > > > I actually believe the current behavior is a bug that needs to be > > > > > fixed. > > > > > See below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, the blackhole netdev was added in 5.3. I assume (didn't > > > > > > > test) that > > > > > > > with older kernel versions you'll see 'lo' instead of '*'. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes indeed! Thanks for solving that mystery as well, our routers > > > > > > are running > > > > > > 5.1, but we upgraded to 5.4-rc2 to determine whether the issue was > > > > > > still > > > > > > present in the latest kernel. > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember when you started seeing this behavior? I think it > > > > > started in 4.13 with commit ffe95ecf3a2e ("Merge branch > > > > > 'net-remove-dst-garbage-collector-logic'"). > > > > > > > > > > Let me add Wei to see if/how this can be fixed. > > > > > > > > > > Wei, in case you don't have the original mail with the description of > > > > > the problem, it can be found here [1]. > > > > > > > > > > I believe that the issue Jesse is experiencing is the following: > > > > > > > > > > <CPU A, t0> - Received packet A is forwarded and cached dst entry is > > > > > taken from the nexthop ('nhc->nhc_rth_input'). Calls skb_dst_set() > > > > > > > > > > <t1> - Given Jesse has busy routers ("ingesting full BGP routing > > > > > tables > > > > > from multiple ISPs"), route is added / deleted and rt_cache_flush() is > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > > <CPU B, t2> - Received packet B tries to use the same cached dst entry > > > > > from t0, but rt_cache_valid() is no longer true and it is replaced in > > > > > rt_cache_route() by the newer one. This calls dst_dev_put() on the > > > > > original dst entry which assigns the blackhole netdev to 'dst->dev' > > > > > > > > > > <CPU A, t3> - dst_input(skb) is called on packet A and it is dropped > > > > > due > > > > > to 'dst->dev' being the blackhole netdev > > > > > > > > > > The following patch "fixes" the problem for me: > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/net/ipv4/route.c b/net/ipv4/route.c > > > > > index 42221a12bdda..1c67bdb80fd5 100644 > > > > > --- a/net/ipv4/route.c > > > > > +++ b/net/ipv4/route.c > > > > > @@ -1482,7 +1482,6 @@ static bool rt_cache_route(struct fib_nh_common > > > > > *nhc, struct rtable *rt) > > > > > prev = cmpxchg(p, orig, rt); > > > > > if (prev == orig) { > > > > > if (orig) { > > > > > - dst_dev_put(&orig->dst); > > > > > dst_release(&orig->dst); > > > > > } > > > > > } else { > > > > > > > > > > But if this dst entry is cached in some inactive socket and the netdev > > > > > on which it took a reference needs to be unregistered, then we can > > > > > potentially wait forever. No? > > > > > > > > > Yes. That's exactly the reason we need to free the dev here. > > > > Otherwise as you described, we will see "unregister_netdevice: waiting > > > > for xxx to become free. Usage count = x" flushing the screen... Not > > > > fun... > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking that it can be fixed by making 'nhc_rth_input' per-CPU, > > > > > in > > > > > a similar fashion to what Eric did in commit d26b3a7c4b3b ("ipv4: > > > > > percpu > > > > > nh_rth_output cache"). > > > > > > > > > Hmm... Yes... I would think a per-CPU input cache should work for the > > > > case above. > > > > Another idea is: instead of calling dst_dev_put() in rt_cache_route() > > > > to switch out the dev, we call, rt_add_uncached_list() to add this > > > > obsolete dst cache to the uncached list. And if the device gets > > > > unregistered, rt_flush_dev() takes care of all dst entries in the > > > > uncached list. I think that would work too. > > > > > > It crossed my mind as well, but if the device is not unregistered, then > > > I believe we can eventually consume all the memory and kill the machine? > > > > Ha, sorry no. I think this will actually work. > > > When every user releases the dst, it will be removed from the uncached > list.
Yea, that's the part I missed in my thinking. :( > But potentially, if any user of the dst is inactive, the dst will be > in the cached list for a while... I think this is fine. Jesse, can you please test Wei's patch? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/net/ipv4/route.c b/net/ipv4/route.c > > > > index dc1f510a7c81..ee618d4234ce 100644 > > > > --- a/net/ipv4/route.c > > > > +++ b/net/ipv4/route.c > > > > @@ -1482,7 +1482,7 @@ static bool rt_cache_route(struct fib_nh_common > > > > *nhc, struct rtable *rt) > > > > prev = cmpxchg(p, orig, rt); > > > > if (prev == orig) { > > > > if (orig) { > > > > - dst_dev_put(&orig->dst); > > > > + rt_add_uncached_list(orig); > > > > dst_release(&orig->dst); > > > > } > > > > } else { > > > > > > > > + Martin for his idea and input. > > > > > > > > > Two questions: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Do you agree with the above analysis? > > > > > 2. Do you have a simpler/better solution in mind? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CANSNSoVM1Uo106xfJtGpTyXNed8kOL4JiXqf3A1eZHBa7z3=y...@mail.gmail.com/T/#medece9445d617372b4842d44525ef0d3ba1ea083