According to your description of the issue it doesn't need a very exotic scenario to trigger it. And due to the fact that Realtek network chips are used on a lot of consumer mainboards, I would assume quite some people are using such a mainboard for a use case like yours. This makes it somewhat suspicious that at least I'm not aware of more such reports. Therefore I think it's a good idea to check the other components of the internal network.
On 12.12.2018 02:28, Risto Pajula wrote: > Hello. > > I added some debug prints to diagnose the bug properly. I can send the > patches if you are willing to debug/try... for example this output is > produced: > > 96096: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.466703: rtl8169_start_xmit: > RTLDBG221 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 opts1: B0000000 txpol: 0 entry: > 24 cur_tx: 5656 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 5648 tx_left: 8 > 96097: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.466704: rtl8169_start_xmit: > RTLDBG111 eth1 rtl_tx_slots_avail > 96099: <idle>-0 [000] d.h. 232.468827: rtl8169_interrupt: > RTLDBG111 eth1 rtl8169_interrupt > 96103: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.468833: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 > eth1 rtl8169_poll > 96104: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.468834: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 > eth1 rtl_rx > 96105: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.468835: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 > eth1 rtl8169_try_rx_copy > 96184: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.468914: rtl_tx: RTLDBG222 eth1 > rtl_tx len: 1506 opts1: B00005E2 txpol: 0 entry: 16 cur_tx: 5657 frags: 0 > dirty_tx: 5648 tx_left: 9 > 96185: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.468924: rtl_tx: RTLDBG223 eth1 > rtl_tx entry opts1: 16, B00005E2 17, B00005E2 18, B00005E2 19, B00005E2 20, > B00005E2 21, B00005E2 22, B00005E2 23, B00005E2 24, B00005E2 > 96189: <idle>-0 [000] d.h. 232.469006: rtl8169_interrupt: > RTLDBG111 eth1 rtl8169_interrupt > 96193: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.469012: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 > eth1 rtl8169_poll > 96194: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.469014: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 > eth1 rtl_rx > 96196: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.469020: rtl_tx: RTLDBG222 eth1 > rtl_tx len: 1506 opts1: 30000000 txpol: 0 entry: 16 cur_tx: 5657 frags: 0 > dirty_tx: 5648 tx_left: 9 > 96204: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.469032: rtl_tx: RTLDBG222 eth1 > rtl_tx len: 1506 opts1: 30000000 txpol: 0 entry: 17 cur_tx: 5657 frags: 0 > dirty_tx: 5649 tx_left: 8 > 96212: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.469041: rtl_tx: RTLDBG222 eth1 > rtl_tx len: 1506 opts1: B00005E2 txpol: 0 entry: 18 cur_tx: 5657 frags: 0 > dirty_tx: 5650 tx_left: 7 > 96213: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 232.469050: rtl_tx: RTLDBG223 eth1 > rtl_tx entry opts1: 18, B00005E2 19, B00005E2 20, B00005E2 21, B00005E2 22, > B00005E2 23, B00005E2 24, B00005E2 > 96235: <idle>-0 [000] d.h. 232.471253: rtl8169_interrupt: > RTLDBG111 eth1 rtl8169_interrupt > > Here we can clearly see that TX Fifo descriptors are properly setup and send > is initiated, but then the rtl8169 stops sending after few frames. I think > the bug is in the HW side (or in the rtl8169 firmware). Some PCI settings > might affect this, but then again shouldn't the rtl8169 then report PCI error > interrupt... > > Also this TX Fifo stalling happens with any traffic and no > netflix/netgem/large tcp windows are required to trigger it. What the > netgem/netflix does is that it causes this bug to be visible by probably due > to timing of the traffic pattern, and thus causes also upper layers of the > network stack to take actions.. > > RTL8168evl indeed is a onboard Ethernet on a reasonable new mothorboard and > the RTL8169sb is and old PCI card. But, the same issue happens with both > ethernet adapters (I switched the interfaces). > > But then again - this got me thinking... If the issue (send fifo stalling) > does not happen in the internet facing interface even with heavy upload > traffic, then the problem must be in the internal network itself. Tomorrow I > will change the Ethernet switch. There could be some sort of compatibility > problem? > > BR. > Risto > > > On 11.12.2018 21:51, Heiner Kallweit wrote: >> OK, then another idea .. At the very beginning of the mail thread it >> was stated that the router has to network ports: >> linux router: Linux computer with Dualcore Intel Celeron G1840, running >> currently Linux kernel 4.20.0-rc2, and openSUSE Leap 15.0 >> eth1: Linux Routers internal (NAT) interface, 192.168.0.1/24 network, mtu >> set to 1500, RTL8169sb/8110sb >> eth0: Linux Routers internet facing interface, public ip address, mtu set to >> 1500, RTL8168evl/8111evl >> >> r8169 supports about 50 members of the RTL8169/RTL8168/RTL8101 family >> and more or less every single member needs its own quirks. >> RTL8168evl (PCIe) is somewhat recent, RTL8169sb (PCI) is ancient. >> To rule out you triggered some hardware issue: Could you switch both >> interfaces and check whether you see a change in system behavior? >> >> On 11.12.2018 18:01, Risto Pajula wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> A freshly built 4.20.0-rc6-next-20181210-lp150.12.25-default waited me when >>> I got back from work, but unfortunately it did not help at all, it behaved >>> exactly in same manner. >>> >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=73ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=307ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=115ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 >>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64 >>> >>> BR. >>> Risto >>> >>> >>> On 11.12.2018 0:20, Risto Pajula wrote: >>>> Hello. >>>> >>>> I have not yet tested with linux-next but I will, thanks for pointing that >>>> out. >>>> >>>> ...But I have studied the problem a bit more, indeed it seems that the >>>> rtl8169 transmission queue gets stuck. >>>> >>>> Below is some trace log. Starting from 802026 a burst of frames is >>>> forwarded from eth0 to eth1 and when we get to the rtl_tx only two frames >>>> have been transmitted.. (Should have had 1,25 ms to transmit them).. Also >>>> then the sequence seems to repeat for very long time that only two >>>> massages get transmitted. >>>> >>>> 800541: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698143: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 34 cur_tx: 4406946 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406946 tx_left: 0 >>>> 800671: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698189: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 35 cur_tx: 4406947 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406946 tx_left: 1 >>>> 800835: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698235: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 36 cur_tx: 4406948 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406946 tx_left: 2 >>>> 800905: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698255: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 37 cur_tx: 4406949 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406946 >>>> tx_left: 3 >>>> 800932: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698263: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 37 cur_tx: 4406949 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406947 >>>> tx_left: 2 >>>> 800960: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698270: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 37 cur_tx: 4406949 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406948 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 800998: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698282: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 37 cur_tx: 4406949 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406949 tx_left: 0 >>>> 801085: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698312: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 38 cur_tx: 4406950 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406949 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 801137: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698329: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 38 cur_tx: 4406950 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406950 tx_left: 0 >>>> 801229: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698363: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 39 cur_tx: 4406951 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406950 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 801264: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698375: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 39 cur_tx: 4406951 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406951 tx_left: 0 >>>> 801356: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698409: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 40 cur_tx: 4406952 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406951 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 801391: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698421: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 40 cur_tx: 4406952 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406952 tx_left: 0 >>>> 801482: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698455: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 41 cur_tx: 4406953 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406952 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 801518: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698468: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 41 cur_tx: 4406953 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406953 tx_left: 0 >>>> 801610: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698502: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 42 cur_tx: 4406954 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406953 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 801645: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698514: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 42 cur_tx: 4406954 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406954 tx_left: 0 >>>> 801737: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698548: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 43 cur_tx: 4406955 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406954 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 801772: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698560: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 43 cur_tx: 4406955 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406955 tx_left: 0 >>>> 801864: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698594: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 44 cur_tx: 4406956 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406955 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 801899: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698607: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 44 cur_tx: 4406956 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406956 tx_left: 0 >>>> 801984: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.698640: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 45 cur_tx: 4406957 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406956 >>>> tx_left: 1 >>>> 802026: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698655: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 45 cur_tx: 4406957 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 0 >>>> 802129: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698701: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 46 cur_tx: 4406958 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 1 >>>> 802232: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698747: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 47 cur_tx: 4406959 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 2 >>>> 802335: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698793: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 48 cur_tx: 4406960 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 3 >>>> 802438: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698840: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 49 cur_tx: 4406961 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 4 >>>> 802541: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698885: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 50 cur_tx: 4406962 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 5 >>>> 802644: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698932: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 51 cur_tx: 4406963 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 6 >>>> 802747: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.698978: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 52 cur_tx: 4406964 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 7 >>>> 802851: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.699025: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 53 cur_tx: 4406965 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 8 >>>> 805094: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.699871: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 54 cur_tx: 4406966 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406957 >>>> tx_left: 9 >>>> 805126: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.699878: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 54 cur_tx: 4406966 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406958 >>>> tx_left: 8 >>>> 805197: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.699905: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 54 cur_tx: 4406966 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406959 tx_left: 7 >>>> 805234: <idle>-0 [001] ..s. 7237.699925: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 55 cur_tx: 4406967 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406959 tx_left: 8 >>>> 811446: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.702344: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 56 cur_tx: 4406968 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406959 >>>> tx_left: 9 >>>> 811479: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.702354: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 56 cur_tx: 4406968 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406960 >>>> tx_left: 8 >>>> 811641: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.702395: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 56 cur_tx: 4406968 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406961 tx_left: 7 >>>> 811733: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.702416: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 57 cur_tx: 4406969 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406961 tx_left: 8 >>>> 812050: hping3-2871 [000] ..s. 7237.704770: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 58 cur_tx: 4406970 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406961 >>>> tx_left: 9 >>>> 812061: hping3-2871 [000] ..s. 7237.704777: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 58 cur_tx: 4406970 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406962 >>>> tx_left: 8 >>>> 812124: hping3-2871 [000] ..s. 7237.704811: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 58 cur_tx: 4406970 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406963 tx_left: 7 >>>> 812176: hping3-2871 [000] ..s. 7237.704831: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 59 cur_tx: 4406971 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406963 tx_left: 8 >>>> 812300: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.707247: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 60 cur_tx: 4406972 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406963 >>>> tx_left: 9 >>>> 812312: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.707257: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 60 cur_tx: 4406972 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406964 >>>> tx_left: 8 >>>> 812389: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.707297: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 60 cur_tx: 4406972 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406965 tx_left: 7 >>>> 812426: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.707318: rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 61 cur_tx: 4406973 frags: 0 >>>> dirty_tx: 4406965 tx_left: 8 >>>> 812827: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.709690: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 62 cur_tx: 4406974 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406965 >>>> tx_left: 9 >>>> 812838: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 7237.709700: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 >>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 62 cur_tx: 4406974 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406966 >>>> tx_left: 8 >>>> ..... >>>> >>>> >>>> BR. >>>> Risto >>>> >>>> On 10.12.2018 23:26, Heiner Kallweit wrote: >>>>> Did you test also with the latest linux-next kernel? Some recent changes >>>>> like 2e6eedb4813e >>>>> "r8169: make use of xmit_more and __netdev_sent_queue" may have a >>>>> positive impact. >>>>> >>>>> On 10.12.2018 00:28, Risto Pajula wrote: >>>>>> Hello. >>>>>> >>>>>> Old subject: "Re: IP fragmentation performance and don't fragment bug >>>>>> when forwarding >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have now been tracing the kernel and finding the bug seems difficult. >>>>>> I think the bug is combination of several things, likely cause is that >>>>>> it only occurs with rtl8169 and how it is using the netdevapi/DQL api. >>>>>> >>>>>> From my investigations seems that following happens: >>>>>> >>>>>> *Burst of frames is received from internet. (eth0) >>>>>> *These are accepted and forwarded to the (eth1) >>>>>> *DQL hits the limit, this causes the scheduling for the device to be >>>>>> stopped (__QUEUE_STATE_STACK_XOFF) >>>>>> *This and combination of some timing causes the performance >>>>>> degradation, messages are only scheduled for transmission in soft Irq >>>>>> context. >>>>>> >>>>>> I still do now know, why the DQL hits the limits.. I think it should >>>>>> not, maybe something undesirable first happens with rtl8169. >>>>>> >>>>>> I inserted following trace printk functions to the code.. >>>>>> >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: >>>>>> trace_printk("ORP33 %s rtl8169_start_xmit len: %d entry: %u cur_tx: %u >>>>>> frags: %d dirty_tx: %u tx_left: %u\n" , tp->dev->name, skb->len, entry, >>>>>> tp->cur_tx, frags, tp->dirty_tx, (tp->cur_tx - tp->dirty_tx) ); >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> rtl_tx: >>>>>> trace_printk("ORP33 %s rtl_tx len: %d entry: %u cur_tx: %u frags: %d >>>>>> dirty_tx: %u tx_left: %u\n" , tp->dev->name, tx_skb->skb->len, >>>>>> tp->cur_tx % NUM_TX_DESC, tp->cur_tx, 0, dirty_tx, tx_left ); >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is some grepped output only filtering the ping packet in two >>>>>> different situations: >>>>>> >>>>>> //trace when downloading ubuntu (~20MB/s), only 3 secs fit to buffer. >>>>>> ping is all the time normal.... >>>>>> //orig tracing.out3754 >>>>>> 117493: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 5235.407116: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 57 cur_tx: 3747641 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 3747640 tx_left: 1 >>>>>> 118704: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 5235.416057: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 20 cur_tx: 3747668 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 3747667 tx_left: 1 >>>>>> 346319: hping3-2871 [000] .... 5236.002456: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 8 >>>>>> cur_tx: 3754312 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 3754312 tx_left: 0 >>>>>> 346337: hping3-2871 [000] ..s. 5236.002475: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 9 cur_tx: 3754313 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 3754312 tx_left: 1 >>>>>> 1277155: hping3-2871 [001] .... 5237.002627: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 38 >>>>>> cur_tx: 3766502 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 3766502 tx_left: 0 >>>>>> 1277173: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 5237.002646: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 39 cur_tx: 3766503 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 3766502 tx_left: 1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> //imcp messages from route to intenal network when TCP stream is on. >>>>>> tracing.out3236/eth1_ring.txt is the original >>>>>> //no idea why the first frame is tripled... >>>>>> 200792: hping3-2871 [001] .... 3239.593384: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 34 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2132770 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2132770 tx_left: 0 >>>>>> 201578: hping3-2871 [001] .... 3240.593625: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 40 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2132776 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2132776 tx_left: 0 >>>>>> 341061: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3241.738011: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 52 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2133684 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2133680 tx_left: 4 >>>>>> 342112: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3241.745297: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 59 cur_tx: 2133691 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2133684 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> 500126: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3242.739500: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 49 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2134513 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2134505 tx_left: 8 >>>>>> 501739: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3242.751654: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 58 cur_tx: 2134522 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2134513 tx_left: 9 >>>>>> 646220: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3243.745761: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 41 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2135273 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2135267 tx_left: 6 >>>>>> 647633: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3243.755486: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 49 cur_tx: 2135281 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2135273 tx_left: 8 >>>>>> 802878: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3244.739947: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 23 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2136087 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2136081 tx_left: 6 >>>>>> 804298: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3244.749677: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 31 cur_tx: 2136095 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2136087 tx_left: 8 >>>>>> 961190: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3245.746217: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 16 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2136912 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2136906 tx_left: 6 >>>>>> 962610: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3245.755946: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 24 cur_tx: 2136920 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2136912 tx_left: 8 >>>>>> 1118044: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3246.740336: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 62 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2137726 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2137720 tx_left: 6 >>>>>> 1119443: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3246.750047: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 5 cur_tx: 2137733 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2137726 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> 1264047: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3247.709202: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 29 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2138525 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2138518 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> 1264740: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3247.718918: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 33 cur_tx: 2138529 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2138525 tx_left: 4 >>>>>> 1419958: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3248.736436: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 48 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2139312 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2139305 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> 1421551: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3248.746189: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 56 cur_tx: 2139320 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2139312 tx_left: 8 >>>>>> 1578746: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3249.742702: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 46 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2140142 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2140135 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> 1580194: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3249.752457: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 54 cur_tx: 2140150 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2140142 tx_left: 8 >>>>>> 1729597: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3250.746839: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 36 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2140964 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2140957 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> 1731015: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3250.756594: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 43 cur_tx: 2140971 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2140964 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> 1881028: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3251.740991: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 19 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2141779 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2141772 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> 1881381: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3251.750718: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 26 cur_tx: 2141786 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2141779 tx_left: 7 >>>>>> //something happens, the output queue empties.. now it is fast, and >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit is not called from soft_irq >>>>>> 1896178: hping3-2871 [001] .... 3252.595994: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 23 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2141911 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2141911 tx_left: 0 >>>>>> 1896196: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3252.596055: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 24 cur_tx: 2141912 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2141911 tx_left: 1 >>>>>> 1923136: hping3-2871 [001] .... 3253.596227: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 50 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2142066 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2142066 tx_left: 0 >>>>>> 1923154: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3253.596289: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 51 cur_tx: 2142067 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2142066 tx_left: 1 >>>>>> 1951633: hping3-2871 [001] .... 3254.596459: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 5 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2142213 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2142213 tx_left: 0 >>>>>> 1951651: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3254.596521: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 6 cur_tx: 2142214 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2142213 tx_left: 1 >>>>>> 1954472: hping3-2871 [001] .... 3255.596700: >>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 15 >>>>>> cur_tx: 2142223 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2142223 tx_left: 0 >>>>>> 1954490: <idle>-0 [000] ..s. 3255.596763: rtl8169_poll: >>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 16 cur_tx: 2142224 frags: 0 dirty_tx: >>>>>> 2142223 tx_left: 1 >>>>>> //until it soon, again is slow.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BR. >>>>>> Risto >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7.12.2018 16:46, Risto Pajula wrote: >>>>>>> Hello. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been to track the poor forwarding latency to the TCP Window >>>>>>> scale options. The Netgem device uses rather large windows scale >>>>>>> options (x256) and I have been able to reproduce the routers poor >>>>>>> forwarding latency also with linux box running in the internal network >>>>>>> and changing the net.ipv4.tcp_rmem to a large value and thus changing >>>>>>> the TCP window scaling options to larger ones. I still do not have clue >>>>>>> why this causes the forwarfing in the linux kernel to block? Maybe >>>>>>> something in the connection tracking....? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With the ICMP timestamp messages I have been able to also pinpoint that >>>>>>> the latency is caused in the eth1 sending side (the following hping3 >>>>>>> example is run in the router toward the internal network... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> xxx:/usr/src/linux-4.20-rc2 # hping3 192.168.0.112 --icmp --icmp-ts -V >>>>>>> using eth1, addr: 192.168.0.1, MTU: 1500 >>>>>>> HPING 192.168.0.112 (eth1 192.168.0.112): icmp mode set, 28 headers + 0 >>>>>>> data bytes >>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=49464 tos=0 iplen=40 >>>>>>> icmp_seq=0 rtt=7.9 ms >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52294891 Receive=52294895 Transmit=52294895 >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=7 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=49795 tos=0 iplen=40 >>>>>>> icmp_seq=1 rtt=235.9 ms >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52295891 Receive=52296128 Transmit=52296128 >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=235 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=49941 tos=0 iplen=40 >>>>>>> icmp_seq=2 rtt=3.8 ms >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52296891 Receive=52296895 Transmit=52296895 >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=50685 tos=0 iplen=40 >>>>>>> icmp_seq=3 rtt=47.8 ms >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52297891 Receive=52297940 Transmit=52297940 >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=47 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=51266 tos=0 iplen=40 >>>>>>> icmp_seq=4 rtt=7.7 ms >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52298891 Receive=52298895 Transmit=52298895 >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=7 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=52245 tos=0 iplen=40 >>>>>>> icmp_seq=5 rtt=3.7 ms >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52299891 Receive=52299895 Transmit=52299895 >>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ^C >>>>>>> --- 192.168.0.112 hping statistic --- >>>>>>> 6 packets tramitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss >>>>>>> round-trip min/avg/max = 3.7/51.1/235.9 ms >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BR. >>>>>>> Risto >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2.12.2018 23:32, Risto Pajula wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can most likely ignore the "DF Bit, mtu bug when forwarding" case. >>>>>>>> There isn't actually big IP packets on the wire, instead there is >>>>>>>> burst of packets on the wire, which are combined by the GRO... And >>>>>>>> thus dropping them should not happen. Sorry about the invalid bug >>>>>>>> report. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However the poor latency from intenal network to the internet still >>>>>>>> remain, both GRO enabled and disabled. I will try to study further... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BR. >>>>>>>> Risto >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2.12.2018 14:01, Risto Pajula wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hello. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have encountered a weird performance problem in Linux IP >>>>>>>>> fragmentation when using video streaming services behind the NAT. >>>>>>>>> Also I have studied a possible bug in the DF bit (don't fragment) >>>>>>>>> handling when forwarding the IP packets. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First the system setup description: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [host1]-int lan-(eth1)[linux router](eth0)-extlan-[fibre >>>>>>>>> router]-internet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> where: >>>>>>>>> host1: is a Netgem N7800 "cable box" for online video streaming >>>>>>>>> services provided by local telco (Can access Netflix, HBO nordic, >>>>>>>>> "live TV", etc.) >>>>>>>>> linux router: Linux computer with Dualcore Intel Celeron G1840, >>>>>>>>> running currently Linux kernel 4.20.0-rc2, and openSUSE Leap 15.0 >>>>>>>>> eth1: Linux Routers internal (NAT) interface, 192.168.0.1/24 network, >>>>>>>>> mtu set to 1500, RTL8169sb/8110sb >>>>>>>>> eth0: Linux Routers internet facing interface, public ip address, mtu >>>>>>>>> set to 1500, RTL8168evl/8111evl >>>>>>>>> fibre router: Alcatel Lucent fibre router (I-241G-Q), directly >>>>>>>>> connected to the eth0 of the Linux router. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And now when using the Netgem N7800 with online video services >>>>>>>>> (Netflix, HBO nordic, etc) the Linux router will receive very BIG IP >>>>>>>>> packets in the eth0 upto ~20kB, this seems to lead to the following >>>>>>>>> problems in the Linux IP stack. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IP fragmentation performance: >>>>>>>>> When the Linux router receives these large IP packets in the eth0 >>>>>>>>> everything works, but it seems that them cause very large performance >>>>>>>>> degradation from internal network to the internet regarding the >>>>>>>>> latency when the IP fragmentation is performed. The ping latency from >>>>>>>>> internal network to the internel network increases from stable >>>>>>>>> 15ms-20ms up to 700-800ms AND also the ping from the internal network >>>>>>>>> to the linux router eth1 (192.168.0.). However up link works >>>>>>>>> perfectly, the ping is still stable when streaming the online >>>>>>>>> services (From linux router to the internet). It seems that the IP >>>>>>>>> fragmentation is somehow blocking the eth1 reception or transmission >>>>>>>>> for very long time (which it shouldn't). I'm able to test and debug >>>>>>>>> the issue further, but advice regarding where to look would be >>>>>>>>> appreciated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> DF Bit, mtu bug when forwarding: >>>>>>>>> I have started to study the above mentioned problem and have found a >>>>>>>>> possible bug in the DF bit and mtu handling in IP forwarding. The BIG >>>>>>>>> packets received from streaming services all have the "DF bit" set >>>>>>>>> and the question is that should we be forwarding them at all as that >>>>>>>>> would result them being fragmented? Apparently we currently are... I >>>>>>>>> have traced this down to the ip_forward.c function ip_exceeds_mtu(), >>>>>>>>> and the following patch seems to fix that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- net/ipv4/ip_forward.c.orig 2018-12-02 11:09:32.764320780 +0200 >>>>>>>>> +++ net/ipv4/ip_forward.c 2018-12-02 12:53:25.031232347 +0200 >>>>>>>>> @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ static bool ip_exceeds_mtu(const struct >>>>>>>>> return false; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /* original fragment exceeds mtu and DF is set */ >>>>>>>>> - if (unlikely(IPCB(skb)->frag_max_size > mtu)) >>>>>>>>> + if (unlikely(skb->len > mtu)) >>>>>>>>> return true; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if (skb->ignore_df) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This seems to work (in some ways) - after the change IP packets that >>>>>>>>> are too large to the internal network get dropped and we are sending >>>>>>>>> "ICMP Destination unreachable, The datagram is too big" messages to >>>>>>>>> the originator (as we should?). However it seems that not all >>>>>>>>> services really like this... Netflix behaves as expected and ping is >>>>>>>>> stable from internal network to the internet, but for example HBO >>>>>>>>> nordic will not work anymore (too little buffering? Retransimissions >>>>>>>>> not working?). So it seems the original issue should be also fixed >>>>>>>>> (And the fragmention should be allowed?). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PS. Watching TV was not this intensive 20 years ago :) >>>>>>>>> >