On 7/24/2018 10:51 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:

The devlink params haven't been upstream even for a full cycle and
already you guys are starting to use them to configure standard
features like queuing.

We developed the devlink params in order to support non-standard
configuration only. And for non-standard, there are generic and vendor
specific options.

I thought it was developed for performing non-standard and possibly
vendor specific configuration.  Look at DEVLINK_PARAM_GENERIC_* for
examples of well justified generic options for which we have no
other API.  The vendor mlx4 options look fairly vendor specific if you
ask me, too.

Configuring queuing has an API.  The question is it acceptable to enter
into the risky territory of controlling offloads via devlink parameters
or would we rather make vendors take the time and effort to model
things to (a subset) of existing APIs.  The HW never fits the APIs
perfectly.

I understand what you meant here, I would like to highlight that this mechanism was not meant to handle SRIOV, Representors, etc. The vendor specific configuration suggested here is to handle a congestion state in Multi Host environment (which includes PF and multiple VFs per host), where one host is not aware to the other hosts, and each is running on its own pci/driver. It is a device working mode configuration.

This couldn't fit into any existing API, thus creating this vendor specific unique API is needed.


The queuing model is a standard. However here we are configuring the
outbound PCIe buffers on the receive path from NIC port toward the
host(s) in Single / MultiHost environment.

That's why we have PF representors.

(You can see the driver processing based on this param as part of the RX
patch for the marked option here https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/945998/)

I know your HW is not capable of doing full RED offload, it's a
snowflake.

The algorithm which is applied here for the drop option is not the core
of this feature.

You tell us you're doing custom DCB configuration hacks on
one side (previous argument we had) and custom devlink parameter
configuration hacks on PCIe.

Perhaps the idea that we're trying to use the existing Linux APIs for
HW configuration only applies to forwarding behaviour.

Hopefully I explained above well why it is not related.

Sure ;)

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