On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Florian Fainelli <f.faine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On October 12, 2017 8:04:19 AM PDT, Jiri Pirko <j...@resnulli.us> wrote:
>>Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 04:46:24PM CEST, ro...@cumulusnetworks.com wrote:
>>>On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Jiri Pirko <j...@resnulli.us> wrote:
>>>> Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 04:35:10PM CEST, ro...@cumulusnetworks.com
>>wrote:
>>>>>On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Steve Lin
>><steven.l...@broadcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Adds a devlink command for getting & setting device configuration
>>>>>> parameters, and enumerates a bunch of those parameters as devlink
>>>>>> attributes.  Also introduces an attribute that can be set by a
>>>>>> driver to indicate that the config change doesn't take effect
>>>>>> until the next restart (as in the case of the bnxt driver changes
>>>>>> in this patchset, for which all the configuration changes affect
>>NVM
>>>>>> only, and aren't loaded until the next restart.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bnxt driver patches make use of these new devlink cmds/attributes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Lin (3):
>>>>>>   devlink: Add config parameter get/set operations
>>>>>>   bnxt: Move generic devlink code to new file
>>>>>>   bnxt: Add devlink support for config get/set
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Is the goal here to move all ethtool operations to devlink (I saw
>>some
>>>>>attrs related to speed etc). ?.
>>>>>We do need to move ethtool attrs to netlink and devlink is a good
>>>>>place (and of-course leave the current ethtool api around for
>>backward
>>>>>compatibility).
>>>>
>>>> We need to make sure we are not moving things to devlink which don't
>>>> belong there. All options that use "netdev" as a handle should go
>>into
>>>> rtnetlink instead.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Any reason you want to keep that restriction ?.
>>>FWIS, devlink is a driver api just like ethtool is.
>>>and ethtool needs to move to netlink soon...and It would be better to
>>>not put the rtnl_lock burden on ethtool driver operations. Instead of
>>>adding yet another driver api, extending devlink seems like a great
>>>fit to me.
>>
>>Hmm, the original purpose of devlink was to obtain iface for things
>>that
>>could not use "netdev" as a handle. I try to stick with it as we
>>already
>>have iface for things that could use "netdev" as a handle - rtnetlink.
>>
>>Not sure we want to go this way and add "netdev"-handle things into
>>devlink. Thoughts?
>
> In the current situation where we have ethtool and devlink operating 
> separately on different objects as entry points to the kernel, I agree with 
> that design.
>
> Once we move ethtool (or however we name its successor) over to netlink there 
> is an opportunity for accessing objects that do and do not have a netdevice 
> representor today (e.g: management ports on switches) with the same 
> interface, and devlink could be used for that.
>
> In terms of compatibility though we should have a pseudo generic layer that 
> can take ethtool ioctl() and transform that into a netlink message and then 
> call back down to drivers with the existing ethtool_ops that are implemented. 
> It is reasonably simple to use coccinelle to update these ethtool_ops with 
> possibly updated signatures to support netlink attributes and whatnot,

ack, that sounds like a good approach.

> but forcing drivers to quit doing ethtool_ops entitely and implement new sets 
> of "ethtool over netlink" ops is a non starter IMHO.

correct, nobody disagrees with that point.

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