Herbert Poetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 06:31:05PM +1200, Sam Vilain wrote: >> Eric W. Biederman wrote: >> > Have a few more network interfaces for a layer 2 solution >> > is fundamental. Believing without proof and after arguments >> > to the contrary that you have not contradicted that a layer 2 >> > solution is inherently slower is non-productive. Arguing >> > that a layer 2 only solution most prove itself on guest to guest >> > communication is also non-productive. >> > >> >> Yes, it does break what some people consider to be a sanity condition >> when you don't have loopback anymore within a guest. I once experimented >> with using 127.* addresses for per-guest loopback devices with vserver >> to fix this, but that couldn't work without fixing glibc to not make >> assumptions deep in the bowels of the resolver. I logged a fault with >> gnu.org and you can guess where it went :-). > > this is what the lo* patches address, by providing > the required loopback isolation and providing lo > inside a guest (i.e. it looks and feels like a > normal system, except that you cannot modify the > interfaces from inside)
Ok. This is new. How do you talk between guests now? Before those patches it was through IP addresses on the loopback interface as I recall. >> > With a guest with 4 IPs >> > 10.0.0.1 192.168.0.1 172.16.0.1 127.0.0.1 >> > How do you make INADDR_ANY work with just filtering at bind time? >> > >> >> It used to just bind to the first one. Don't know if it still does. > > no, it _alway_ binds to INADDR_ANY and checks > against other sockets (in the same context) > comparing the lists of assigned IPs (the subset) > > so all checks happen at bind/connect time and > always against the set of IPs, only exception is > a performance optimization we do for single IP > guests (where INADDR_ANY gets rewritten to the > single IP) What is the mechanism there? My rough extrapolation says this mechanism causes problems when migrating between machines. In particular it sounds like only one process can bind to *:80, even if it is only allowed to accept connections from a subset of those IPs. So if on another machine I bound something to *:80 and only allowed to use a different set of IPs and then attempted to migrate it, the migration would fail because I could not restart the application, with all of it's layer 3 resources. To be clear I assume when I migrate I always take my IP address or addresses with me. Eric - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html