> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Jones [mailto:rick.jon...@hpe.com]
> Sent: April-15-16 6:37 PM
> To: Butler, Peter <pbut...@sonusnet.com>; netdev@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: Poorer networking performance in later kernels?
>
> On 04/15/2016 02:02 PM, Butler, Peter wrote:
>> (Please keep me CC'd to all comments/responses)
>>
>> I've tried a kernel upgrade from 3.4.2 to 4.4.0 and see a marked drop 
>> in networking performance.  Nothing was changed on the test systems, 
>> other than the kernel itself (and kernel modules).  The identical 
>> .config used to build the 3.4.2 kernel was brought over into the
>> 4.4.0 kernel source tree, and any configuration differences (e.g. new 
>> parameters, etc.) were taken as default values.
>>
>> The testing was performed on the same actual hardware for both kernel 
>> versions (i.e. take the existing 3.4.2 physical setup, simply boot 
>> into the (new) kernel and run the same test).  The netperf utility 
>> was used for benchmarking and the testing was always performed on 
>> idle systems.
>>
>> TCP testing yielded the following results, where the 4.4.0 kernel 
>> only got about 1/2 of the throughput:
>>
>
>>         Recv     Send       Send                          Utilization       
>> Service Demand
>>         Socket   Socket     Message Elapsed               Send     Recv     
>> Send    Recv
>>         Size     Size       Size    Time       Throughput local    remote   
>> local   remote
>>         bytes    bytes      bytes   secs.      10^6bits/s % S      % S      
>> us/KB   us/KB
>>
>> 3.4.2 13631488 13631488   8952    30.01      9370.29    10.14    6.50     
>> 0.709   0.454
>> 4.4.0 13631488 13631488   8952    30.02      5314.03    9.14     14.31    
>> 1.127   1.765
>>
>> SCTP testing yielded the following results, where the 4.4.0 kernel only got 
>> about 1/3 of the throughput:
>>
>>         Recv     Send       Send                          Utilization       
>> Service Demand
>>         Socket   Socket     Message Elapsed               Send     Recv     
>> Send    Recv
>>         Size     Size       Size    Time       Throughput local    remote   
>> local   remote
>>         bytes    bytes      bytes   secs.      10^6bits/s  % S     % S      
>> us/KB   us/KB
>>
>> 3.4.2 13631488 13631488   8952    30.00      2306.22    13.87    13.19    
>> 3.941   3.747
>> 4.4.0 13631488 13631488   8952    30.01       882.74    16.86    19.14    
>> 12.516  14.210
>>
>> The same tests were performed a multitude of time, and are always 
>> consistent (within a few percent).  I've also tried playing with 
>> various run-time kernel parameters (/proc/sys/kernel/net/...) on the
>> 4.4.0 kernel to alleviate the issue but have had no success at all.
>>
>> I'm at a loss as to what could possibly account for such a discrepancy...
>>
>
> I suspect I am not alone in being curious about the CPU(s) present in the 
> systems and the model/whatnot of the NIC being used.  I'm also curious as to 
> why you have what at first glance seem like absurdly large socket buffer 
> sizes.
>
> That said, it looks like you have some Really Big (tm) increases in service 
> demand.  Many more CPU cycles being consumed per KB of data transferred.
>
> Your message size makes me wonder if you were using a 9000 byte MTU.
>
> Perhaps in the move from 3.4.2 to 4.4.0 you lost some or all of the stateless 
> offloads for your NIC(s)?  Running ethtool -k <interface> on both ends under 
> both kernels might be good.
>
> Also, if you did have a 9000 byte MTU under 3.4.2 are you certain you still 
> had it under 4.4.0?
>
> It would (at least to me) also be interesting to run a TCP_RR test comparing 
> the two kernels.  TCP_RR (at least with the default request/response size of 
> one byte) doesn't really care about stateless offloads or MTUs and could show 
> how much difference there is in basic path length (or I suppose in interrupt 
> coalescing behaviour if the NIC in question has a mildly dodgy heuristic for 
> such things).
>
> happy benchmarking,
>
> rick jones
>


I think the issue is resolved.  I had to recompile my 4.4.0 kernel with a few 
options pertaining to the Intel NIC which somehow (?) got left out or otherwise 
clobbered when I ported my 3.4.2 .config to the 4.4.0 kernel source tree.  With 
those changes now in I see essentially identical performance with the two 
kernels.  Sorry for any confusion and/or waste of time here.  My bad.


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