jamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I ask you a very specific question, you start playing silly games with
> words. This is why it has been hard to make progress with you.
> I didnt ask what you are doing without the patch or whether you will use
> the patch at all, rather whether it will restore the functionality that
> was broken.

Is it me who play word games? You ask me if a patch "will restore
the functionality" when you know the patch itself is _non_functional?

Do you really want or need my help to make progress?

>From my perspective it looks like you're concentrating on personal
attacks. How many times have you said that I'm slowing "your" progress,
that my drivers are unimportant, and I don't care for something
(unspecified) I should.

What do you care for?
What idea or code have you shown?

Sorry, anything like "we need a hybrid out of Stefan's and Thomas'
patch" doesn't count.

Last but certainly not least: how many technical (as opposed to
personal) questions and explanations from me remain ignored by you?

I admit I don't understand a significant part of your messages.
It might be the partial cause.

> Is Stefan's patch going to restore the functionality that you need?

I hope so. If done correctly, it would not only provide the
functionality my drivers were using before the breakage, it would
enable me to cut the dirty links between low level and mid level
drivers.

In short, it would be fine.

But _first_ it needs to be correct.

> Lets not deviate the discussion. A question is not answered with a
> question.
> You could answer with "yes, it is good enough" and then go to "but i
> have these other issues with it".
>
> Two separate issues. Answer the question then we can move to the
> "but .." part

Good enough for what? For being included in the kernel? Do you really
need my opinion here again? No, it's not.

Are you asking if those 3 netif_dormant*() functions are good enough
for my drivers? Of course they are, do you think who has written them?
(oops, it never existed)

I never said the patch has to provide more than it tries to do. In
fact I've stated that my WAN drivers are not a show stopper here at
all. What else can I do for you here?

Does that answer your question?
-- 
Krzysztof Halasa
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