Keep it short!

Roxanna I. Cieplinska
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> On Mar 22, 2019, at 5:50 PM, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote:
> 
> I know it's a little tangential, but it's a huge operational issue for 
> network operations too. Have any NANOG folks been paying attention to 
> webauthn? i didn't know about until yesterday, though i wrote a proof of 
> concept of something that looks a lot like webauthn in 2012. The thing that 
> is kind of concerning to me is that there seems to be some amount of 
> misconception (I hope!) that you need hardware or biometric or some 
> non-password based authentication on the user device in the many write ups 
> i've been reading. i sure hope that misconception doesn't take hold because 
> there is nothing wrong with *local* password based authentication to unlock 
> your credentials. i fear that if the misconception takes hold, it will cause 
> the entire effort to tank. the issue with passwords is transmitting them over 
> the wire, first and foremost. strong *local* passwords that unlock 
> functionality is still perfectly fine for many many applications, IMO.
> 
> Which isn't to say that hardware/biometric is bad, it's just to say that they 
> are separable problems with their own set of tradeoffs. NANOG folks sound 
> like prime examples of who should be using 2 factor, etc. But we don't want 
> to discourage, oh say, Epicurious to implement webauthn to get to my 
> super-secret recipe box because they don't think people will buy id dongles.
> 
> Mike

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