Hi Colton,

Sorry for getting your name switched around last time, I only just noticed that!

A specific TR-069 implementation that I know has the speed test function is UMP 
Cloud, however I’m not sure exactly how it does it. You can see their spiel 
here:
https://www.avsystem.com/products/cloud-ump/

That said, TR-143 includes a time-based throughput test, so that you can test 
for defined number of seconds instead of a particular file size. That should 
allow you to suitably test any speed service. Refer to section 4.3 in the 
following document:
https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-143.pdf

Regards,
Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer | TasmaNet


From: Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 1:34 AM
To: Philip Loenneker <philip.loenne...@tasmanet.com.au>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform

Philip,

Which TR-069 tools are you referring to? I looked at TR-143, but its my 
understanding it downloads a small file (like 50MB) from the TR-069 server to 
the CPE's ram. Then uploads the file back. Unfortunately I couldn't see how 
this would reliability test 1Gbps connections. Can you increase the file size? 
Most of these modems have like 128MB ram right now?

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:07 PM Philip Loenneker 
<philip.loenne...@tasmanet.com.au<mailto:philip.loenne...@tasmanet.com.au>> 
wrote:
Connor,

If you use the Traffic Generator tool instead of the Bandwidth Test tool built 
into MikroTik, you can definitely flood a 1Gbps link. However it requires the 
device to receive the packets that it has sent out, so it’s only viable for 
links with the same up/down speed.

We have been investigating some TR-069 platforms, and several of those offer 
speed test functionality built in. This means our helpdesk guys can just click 
a few buttons to trigger it, it only talks to the CPE (nothing on customer 
LAN), and people don’t need to know how to configure the test other than “click 
here”. TR-069 also has a lot of other advantages which you can easily discover 
with a quick search.

Regards,
Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer | TasmaNet

From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org>> On Behalf 
Of Colton Conor
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2019 12:17 AM
To: James Bensley <jwbens...@gmail.com<mailto:jwbens...@gmail.com>>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform

All, thanks for the recommendations both on and off list.

It has been brought to my attention that a Mikrotik has a bandwidth speed test 
tool built into their operating system. Someone recommended a 
https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac2 for MSRP of $69. The release notes of the 
newest version say:

!) speedtest - added "/tool speed-test" for ping latency, jitter, loss and TCP 
and UDP download, upload speed measurements (CLI only);
*) btest - added multithreading support for both UDP and TCP tests;

Do you think this device can push a full 1Gbps connection? It does have a quad 
core qualcom processor.

Besides mikrotik, I haven't found anything that doesn't require me to build a 
solution. Like OpenWRT with ipef3, or something like that.

Seems like a commercial solution would exist for this.  I though CAF providers 
have to test bandwidth for the FCC randomly to get funding?

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 2:59 AM James Bensley 
<jwbens...@gmail.com<mailto:jwbens...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 16:54, Colton Conor 
<colton.co...@gmail.com<mailto:colton.co...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> As an internet service provider with many small business and residential 
> customers, our most common tech support calls are speed related. Customers 
> complaining on slow speeds, slowdowns, etc.
>
> We have a SNMP and ping monitoring platform today, but that mainly tells us 
> up-time and if data is flowing across the interface. We can of course see the 
> link speed, but customer call in saying the are not getting that speed.
>
> We are looking for a way to remotely test customers internet connections 
> besides telling the customer to go to speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net>, or 
> worse sending a tech out with a laptop to do the same thing.
>
> What opensource and commercial options are out there?

Hi Colton,

In the past I have used CPEs which support remote loopback. When the
customer complains we enable remote loopback, send the traffic to that
customers connection (rather than requiring a CPE that can generate
the traffic or having an on site device) and measuring what comes
back.

Cheers,
James.

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