What Jason said in red.
On 1/12/19 6:07 PM, Jason Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > Honestly, you feel very highly of your work in which any of us do in > this field but John has a very good point and constructive criticism > shroud not be the down fall of anyone. Read it 100 times without > taking any thought of your own work and try to see the whole picture. > > Not agreeing with John or you but it is very straight forward and > industry leading. It’s polite. I would feel the proper response from > you would be to acknowledge the feedback and ask for some correction > and guidance as John has had a lot of involvement here as so many others. > > He is not saying what you are doing is bad or such but more of > guidance in a more proper direction so delusions are not set in the > future. > > The whole picture of any outcome is not only had by just one person > trying to make a difference but by the whole for a greater good for > which makes sense for the current architectures and policies that are > in place. > > I solute both you and John plus the community at which contribute > highly valuable aspects to evolving “our” beat practices and judgements. > > Whether it’s positive or negative or proof of concept, it is how we > get to where we “think” we should be. > > Criticism is how we get there regardless. > > Let’s cut out the other non-sense and discontinue this thread and work > positively instead of against one-another. > > -- > J. Hellenthal > > The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven > says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > > On Jan 12, 2019, at 17:26, Cummings, Chris <ccummi...@coeur.com > <mailto:ccummi...@coeur.com>> wrote: > >> Can we please have a mod step in and shut this thread down? Any >> conversation of value is long gone. >> >> /Chris >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM -0600, "Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan" >> <g...@dombox.org <mailto:g...@dombox.org>> wrote: >> >> I don't know why you are all try to defend a man who try to >> silence my work. >> >> Are you saying this thread is necessary? >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 4:46 AM Töma Gavrichenkov >> <xima...@gmail.com <mailto:xima...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 12:51 AM Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan >> <g...@dombox.org <mailto:g...@dombox.org>> wrote: >> > 5 months back I posted my spam research on DMARC list. >> > You have gone through only 50 words and judged my work. >> > The whole thread gone haywire because of you. I was >> > humiliated there and left. >> >> By the way, since that you've left no traces of whatever >> piece of work >> you've posted to that list. The website is empty, slides are >> removed >> from Speakerdeck, etc. >> >> In theory, I can easily recall a few cases in my life when going >> through just 50 words was quite enough for a judgment. >> >> > To be very honest, I don't like you. >> >> Please keep our busy mailing list out of this information, >> though for >> me it's a valuable piece of data that someone I don't know >> personally >> doesn't like someone else. >> >> > Although I don't like you, I still managed to respond >> politely in >> > IETF lists. Again... In that list the only thing you did was >> > attacking my work. >> >> So, I've read the whole thread, and, as far as I can see, >> there was >> nothing coming from John except for a balanced judgement. >> >> > And then please tell me this man is not biased at all. >> >> Sorry, he's not. >> >> -- >> Töma >> >> >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> >> Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan >> Dombox, Inc. >>