Back to main discussion.... How do we choose the best transport?
One question, how much people care about vendor diversity? I do and did care. I don’t want to put all my eggs in one basket. Do you care? Thank you Mehmet On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 11:30 Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I haven't. > > Sure, but the equipment still does smaller channels. Going to 100G or 400G > for just over 10G seems silly. > > If Equinix had reasonable cross connects, I'd just LAG 10Gs. The cost of a > pair of Equinix cross connects isn't much less than the 10G wave. > Thankfully I'm only in one datacenter with such a ridiculous model. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Ben Cannon" <b...@6by7.net> > *To: *"Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > *Cc: *"Luke Guillory" <lguill...@reservetele.com>, "nanog" < > nanog@nanog.org> > *Sent: *Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:27:21 PM > > *Subject: *Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea) > > Mike have you looked at Packetlight? Long-haul is mostly jumping to 100 > or even 400g coherent. > > -Ben > > On Dec 15, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > FS had one, but it's not on their site anymore. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Luke Guillory" <lguill...@reservetele.com> > *To: *"Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > *Cc: *"Eric Dugas" <edu...@unknowndevice.ca>, "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org> > *Sent: *Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:52:19 AM > *Subject: *Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea) > > No cost affective 10x10G to 100G muxponder? > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > heh, cross connects are indeed a major issue. I have a need for > 10G > transport. My equipment supports 40G. The carriers aren't terribly > interested in doing 40G transport (at least not at a reasonable price, one > quote was over 4x a 10G). 100G-capable switches cost too much. Equinix > charges as much for a pair of cross connects as a 10G wave. Carriers aren't > likely to be interested in using bidi optics or passive WDM to overcome the > ridiculous cross connect charges. > > This all complicates how one chooses transport. There's no easy path > forward. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Eric Dugas" <edu...@unknowndevice.ca> > *To: *"Mehmet Akcin" <meh...@akcin.net> > *Cc: *"nanog" <nanog@nanog.org> > *Sent: *Friday, December 14, 2018 11:42:53 AM > *Subject: *Re: How to choose a transport(terrestrial/subsea) > > I also look at hand-off locations (as long as it doesn't compromise the > overall robustness of the design). > > Most providers will be able to hand-off in the BMMR of a carrier hotel and > some will have the flexibility to hand-off in particular suites within the > same building or other locations near where the cross-connects fees are > lower. I've seen cross-connect fees between $50 up to $750 MRC so if you > need multiple wavelengths (for capacity), the cross-connect fees are going > to make a huge difference on the total MRC. > > Eric > > > > Luke Guillory > Vice President – Technology and Innovation > > > <http://www.rtconline.com> > Tel: 985.536.1212 > Fax: 985.536.0300 > Email: lguill...@reservetele.com > Web: www.rtconline.com > Reserve Telecommunications > 100 RTC Dr > <https://maps.google.com/?q=100+RTC+Dr+%0D%0AReserve,+LA+70084&entry=gmail&source=g> > Reserve, LA 70084 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=100+RTC+Dr+%0D%0AReserve,+LA+70084&entry=gmail&source=g> > > > > > > > *Disclaimer:* > The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for > the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or privileged material which should not disseminate, > distribute or be copied. 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Luke Guillory therefore > does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of > this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. > > On Dec 14 2018, at 12:17 pm, Mehmet Akcin <meh...@akcin.net> wrote: > > Thank you everyone incredible amounts of responses for my how to choose a > transit provider smail earlier. > > How do you choose transport & backbone? > > Looking at key aspects like route information, diversity, aerial vs under > ground fiber, age of fiber, outage history, length, but what else? > > I will get both transport and transit as two seperate blogs. > > I will also submit as a nanog paper for the meeting after next, or maybe > next? I am probably too late by now. > > Thank you for all your help. I will add your names to the thank you line > ;-) > -- > Mehmet > +1-424-298-1903 > > > > > -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
