Hi Tom,

This article is now 11 months old, but may be of interest to you:
https://blog.apnic.net/2017/11/09/ce-vendors-share-thoughts-ipv6-support/

Some quotes:

  *   The major issue is the lack of support provided by CE vendors for both 
older (DS-Lite, lw4o6), and newer (464XLAT, MAP T/E) transition mechanisms. 
Some vendors provide it ‘on-demand’ for big customers, but small and medium 
ISPs don’t have the same purchasing capability, creating a big issue for 
deployment.
  *   All panellists said their service providers’ products supported lw4o6, 
MAP-E/T, and 464XLAT, but because of the lack of support for these mechanisms 
in RFC7084, it is not standard in retail CE.
  *   There are no new hardware requirements that will exclude vendors 
supporting all these transitions mechanisms — it is really a matter of very few 
kilobytes.
  *   The panel agreed that minimum orders were not considered when 
implementing these mechanisms. For them, the fact is that IPv6 needs to be 
implemented, and there is a need to support new transition mechanisms and 
support service providers and retail users. Also, there is a need for products 
to pass some certification requirements (again the idea of RFC7084-bis is 
strongly supported by the panellists).

Telstra did a presentation as AusNOG back in September discussing their IPv6 
implementation which was really great to see. They have their own branded CPEs 
with 464XLAT. Unfortunately I don’t think there is a video of it, only a rather 
short slide deck. You can see it here:
https://www.ausnog.net/sites/default/files/ausnog-2018/presentations/2.8_David_Woolley_AusNOG2018.pdf

I have asked several vendors we deal with about the newer technologies such as 
464XLAT, and have had some responses indicating they will investigate 
internally, however we have not made much progress yet. One vendor suggested 
their device supports NAT46 and NAT64 so may support 464XLAT, but since it is 
incidental rather than an official feature, it may not support the full CLAT 
requirements. I have been meaning to do some tests but haven’t had a chance 
yet. It is also a higher price point than our current CPEs.

I have spoken to people who have looked into options such as OpenWRT (which 
supports several of these technolgoies), however the R&D and ongoing support is 
a significant roadblock to overcome.

I would like to hear how others are implementing these transition technologies.

Regards,
Philip


From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Tom Ammon
Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2018 12:59 PM
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: new(ish) ipv6 transition tech status on CPE

Are there any CPE vendors providing MAP-T features yet? I'm working on rolling 
v6 to residential subscribers and am trying to understand what the landscape 
looks like on the CPE side, for MAP-T specifically.

What about 464XLAT on a CPE - is that a thing? I know that 464XLAT has been 
running for a while on some mobile provider networks, but are there any vendors 
out there with a decent/mature CLAT implementation in a CPE product that is 
ready to buy right now?

Thanks,
Tom

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