On 09/11/2018 09:31 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
So don't CGNat? Buy IPv4 addresses at auction?
Buy IPv4 addresses until CGN is cheaper. If a customer has to call, and
you have to assign an IPv4 address, you have to recover the cost of that
call and address.
While ((CostOfCall + CostOfAddress)*NumberOfCalls) >
(CostOfAddress*NumberOfNewCustomers):
BuyAddresses(NumberOfNewCustomers)
Meanwhile, deploy IPv6, and move toward IPv4aaS, probably 464xlat or
MAP, but your religion may vary. That way your "CGN" is an IPv6-IPv4
translator, and that's easier than managing dual-stack.
At the very least, dual-stack your web sites now, so the rest of us can
get to it without translation.
Lee
On 9/11/18 9:28 AM, Ca By wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 6:04 AM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
That isn’t a solution. He still will need to dual stack and CGNat
that.
But the flows that can support ipv6, will go ipv6 and not be subject
to these abuse triggers.
Look, this list has monthly reports from some small network operator
hurting their customers with CGN NAT. Meanwhile, the big guys like
Comcast / Charter / ATT / Cox have moved onto ipv6.
Where does that leave the little guy with CGN?
Right here. Screaming into the avoid begging for help. Some special
exception.
And, me, saying you had 10+ years of not deploying ipv6. Here’s to
the next 10 years of you email this list about your own failure to
keep up with the times.
We will have this discussion again and again. Not sure your
customers will stick around, all they know is your CGN space got
black listed from yet another service
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On Sep 11, 2018, at 08:54, Ca By <cb.li...@gmail.com
<mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:12 PM Darin Steffl
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I have a ticket open with OpenDNS about filtering happening on
some of our CGNAT IP space where a customer has "claimed" the
IP as theirs so other customers using that same IP and OpenDNS
are being filtered and not able to access sites that fall
under their chosen filter.
I have a ticket open from 6 days ago but it's not going
anywhere fast.
Can someone from OpenDNS contact me or point me to a contact
there to help get this resolved? I believe we need to claim
our CGNAT IP space so residential users can't claim IP's of
their own.
Thank you!
You should provide your users ipv6, opendns supports ipv6 and
likely will not have this issue you see
https://www.opendns.com/about/innovations/ipv6/
I am sure it may cost you time / money / effort. But this old
thing we call ipv4 is in a death spiral, and it will just get
worse and worse for you without ipv6.
-- Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
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