On 06/17/2018 02:53 PM, Brad wrote:
While I agree there are unintended consequences every time advancements are 
made in relation to the security and stability of the Internet- I disagree we 
should be rejecting their implementations. Instead, we should innovate further.

I look forward to your innovations.
Just because end to end encryption causes bandwidth issues for a very small 
number users - then perhaps they could benefit the most by these changes with 
additional capacity.

I encourage you to invest billions of dollars in rural broadband capacity worldwide. The rest of us will thank you for your sacrifice.

Lee

-Brad

-------- Original message --------From: Michael Hallgren <m...@xalto.net> Date: 
6/17/18  11:14  (GMT-07:00) To: na...@jack.fr.eu.org Cc: Matthew Petach 
<m...@petach.org>, nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any 
solution?)
Le 2018-06-17 12:40, na...@jack.fr.eu.org a écrit :
Well, yes, there is, you simply have to break the end to end encryption
Yes, (or) deny service by Policy (remains to evaluate who's happy with
that).

Cheers,
mh

On 06/17/2018 03:09 AM, Matthew Petach wrote:
Except that if websites are set to HTTPS only, there's no option for
disabling encryption on the client side.

Matt


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 14:47 <na...@jack.fr.eu.org> wrote:

On 06/16/2018 10:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Sadly, it's just falling on deaf ears. Silicon Valley will continue
to
think they know better than everyone else and people outside of that
bubble
will continue to be disadvantaged.

What, again ?
Encryption is what is best for the most people.
The few that will not use it can disable it.

No issue then.



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