The "do not search a culprit" stuff: What is the point with encryption ?
If your users have a very-low bandwidth, they will get a crappy service, with or without encryption This is our world, our http-based internet is NOT made for a 40k connection The "tip stuff": If you simply do not care about encryption, or are willing to trade privacy for caching because you have no-bandwidth, you can simply break SSL It costs nothing, and you will not mind the "red lock" (remember: trade-off) The "philosophical stuff": About your last part, you are absolutely right, this is a sad situation, yet not true Niklaus Wirth (the pascal guy) said in 1995: "Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." This has never been so true .. On 05/28/2018 06:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I can't imagine rural third-country villages have much influence over the > departments of the appropriate companies to affect all of the junk getting > added to sites these days. > > I'm also not foolish enough to think this thread will affect the > encrypt-everything crowd as it is more of a religion\ideology than a > practical matter. However, maybe it'll shed some light on technical ways of > dealing with this at the service-provider level or plant some doubt in > someone's mind the next time they think they need to encrypt non-sensitive > information. > > The same goes for all development. My phone is significantly slower today > than a couple years ago when new without a significant change in the amount > of stuff that I run because developers are lazy and fill the space the latest > platforms offer them. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rich Kulawiec" <r...@gsp.org> > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 10:00:36 AM > Subject: Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?) > > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 09:23:09AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: >> Some things certainly do need to be encrypted, but encrypting everything >> means people with limited Internet access get worse performance OR >> mechanisms have to be out in place to break ALL encryption, this >> compromising security and privacy when it's really needed. > > There are better places to reduce traffic while simultaneously enhancing > security and privacy. The new EU version of the home page of USA Today > is about 20% the size of the one presented in the US -- because it's > had all the tracking and scripting stripped out -- with a concomitant > reduction in load time and rendering time. Much more drastic reductions > are available elsewhere, e.g., mail messages composed of text only are > typically 5% to 10% the size of the same messages marked up with HTML. > > The problem (part of the problem) is that the people doing these foolish > things are new, ignorant, and privileged: they don't realize that bandwidth > is still an expensive and scarce resource for most of the planet. I've > said for years that every web designer should be forced to work in an > environment bandlimited to 56K in order to instll in them the virtue > of frugality and strongly discourage them from flattering their egos > by creating all-singing all-dancing web sites...that look great in the > portfolios they'll show to their peers but are horribly bloated, slow, > unrenderable in a lot of browsers, and fraught with security and privacy > problems. (Try pointing a text-only browser at your favorite website. > Can you even read the home page?) > > ---rsk >
