On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 4:19 PM Shawn L via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
> > Honestly, most carriers I've talked to are fed up as well, and just want > to find a way to make it stop. As some one said, it's exactly like BCP38 > --- the carriers that care keep their clients from spoofing caller id, > etc. The ones that don't make everyone else look bad. > Some carriers have a free scam call block feature https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/scam-block.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedc...@dessus.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:04pm > To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: RE: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls? > > > > Why would the carriers want to do anything? They are making money from > call termination fees. > > > --- > The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says > a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Sean > >Pedersen > >Sent: Wednesday, 4 April, 2018 08:45 > >To: nanog@nanog.org > >Subject: RE: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls? > > > >Yep. Add it to the list of IRS scams, fake arrest warrants, credit > >repair, free vacations, etc. The rate of calls has increased > >dramatically in the past year, especially with the "neighborhood > >scam" where they spoof their CLID to a local area code and prefix + > >0000 through 9999 and blast you with calls, trying to trick you into > >thinking it's someone local and thus important or legitimate. > > > >I have a second phone I use for work and on-call, so that goes on DND > >from 6PM to 6AM with a VIP list of people/numbers that can ring > >through. No problems there, and somehow that number isn't (yet) on > >anyone's list, so I don't get many calls. > > > >On my personal cell, I started to use an app called Hiya that has > >been pretty successful. It's available for both iPhone and Android. > >It powers a lot of the carrier-specific apps like AT&T Call Protect, > >but unlike them, it doesn't suck. It's a giant database of reports > >that rate calling numbers and classify them as fraud, scam, > >neighborhood spoofing, etc. and you can flag them or route them right > >to voicemail. The only time it doesn’t work is when it hasn't updated > >its list in a little while and a few sneak through. They just > >realized a premium version that added some features. I haven't > >explored it yet. > > > >Went from about 20 calls a week to almost nothing. > > > >Carriers seem to be either uncapable or unwilling to address the > >issue other than the occasional lip-service reply about "taking > >customer's $variable seriously." > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of William > >Herrin > >Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 3:32 PM > >To: nanog@nanog.org > >Subject: Are any of you starting to get AI robocalls? > > > >Howdy. > > > >Have any of you started to get AI robocalls? I've had a couple of > >calls recently where I get the connect silence of a predictive dialer > >followed by a woman speaking with call center background noise. She > >gives her name and asks how I'm doing. The first time it happened it > >seemed off for reasons I can't quite articulate, so I asked: "Are you > >a robot or a person?" She responded "yes" and then launched in to a > >sales pitch. The next time I asked, "where can I direct your call?" > >She responded "that's good" and launched in to her pitch. > > > >Regards, > >Bill Herrin > > > > > >-- > >William Herrin ................ her...@dirtside.com b...@herrin.us > >Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> > > > > > >
