> On Mar 2, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Matt Harris <m...@netfire.net> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com 
> <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote:
> Sure… You have to maintain the tunnel or they may reassign/reallocate the 
> address. Here’s the reality of that, however:
> 
> 1.    Unless you care about reaching the customer they reassigned it to from 
> your network, you don’t care.
> 2.    Using it for ULA in addition to the tunnel isn’t really prohibited by 
> that. It’s a gray area, I’ll admit.
> 3.    Sure, they can cancel the service at any time, but you get what you pay 
> for. It saves you $100/year
>       while it lasts.
> 
> Owen
> 
> I'm not sure where you're getting the $100 figure from, ARIN's minimum fee 
> for an allocation is $250/year (for a /40 or smaller block) on top of 
> membership fees of $500/yr, so that's $750/yr to get a /48 from the North 
> American RIR (which is the only one I'm looking at today given that the 
> context is the nanog list).  Additionally, tunnel providers can and have shut 
> down permanently at random - SixXS was among the largest providers, and they 
> shut down operations entirely last year.  So any folks using space from them 
> had to renumber, either on to another tunnel provider's space, or to ULA.  
> Re-numbering has associated costs, which in the case we're pointing to here, 
> could've been saved had they deployed on ULA space instead.  
> 

You don’t need an allocation. Get an assignment.

Owen

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