My first post: On Nov 10, 2016 6:24 PM, "Charles van Niman" <char...@phukish.com> wrote:
> Your original point was that a list of vendors "didn't get IS-IS" but > provided no details about what you are talking about. As far as all > the documentation I have read, and some of the documentation you > linked to, it works just fine on quite a few vendors, and a few people > on this list. Your original point mentions nothing about wider OSPF > adoption, which you seem to have shifted to to deflect having to > provide any actual details. > > Are we to assume that your original point was incorrect? As far as the > landscape as a whole, I have seen quite a few networks that get by > with either protocol just fine, the use-case for a given network is > not such a broad landscape, so I think "use the right tool for the > job" seems very apt, and that you can't just say that only two > protocols are suitable for all jobs. > > /Charles > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > wrote: > > As cute as your impotent white knighting of one vendor is (I very much > like > > Juniper BTW), you're absolutely ignoring my original premise and point > > because you got your panties in a wad over a potential triviality of an > > internet comment - where documentation exists, should one take the time > to > > go through it, to find discrepancies between them. > > > > So, if you'd like to prove your point and earn brownie points with > $vendor, > > on a feature by feature basis please take the time to consult > documentation > > of two vendors products (you can even pick the platform and subversion > > release!) to refute my claim. This has nothing at all to do with the > point > > of my statement mind you, it's simply a sidetrack that has wasted enough > > time already. > > > > That said, glance across the landscape as a whole of all of the routing > > platforms out there. Hardware AND softwsre. Which ones support bare bones > > IS-IS? Which ones have a decent subset of extensions? Are they comparable > > or compatible with others? The end result is a *very mixed bag*, with far > > more not supporting IS-IS at all, or only supporting the bare minimum to > > even go by that name in a datasheet. > > > > Thus, my point stands. If you want as much flexibility in your > environment > > as you can have, you want OSPF or BGP as your IGP. > > > > On Nov 10, 2016 5:33 PM, "Nick Hilliard" <n...@foobar.org> wrote: > > > >> Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> > I didn't "trash talk" a vendor. If I did, it would be a multi-thousand > >> > line hate fueled rant with examples and enough colorful language to > make > >> > submarine crews blush. > >> > >> I have no doubt it would be the best rant. It would be a beautiful > rant. > >> > >> Entertaining and all as hand-waving may be, please let us know if you > >> manage to unearth any actual facts to support the claims that you made > >> about junos's alleged feature deficits. > >> > >> Nick > >> > >> >