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On Oct 22, 2016 5:32 PM, "Mark Foster" <blak...@blakjak.net> wrote: > The person who owns the internet connection still has responsibility for > what happens on it. > > So if the owners are educated to select reputable brands in order to > prevent themselves from being implicated in a DDoS and liable for a fine or > some other punitive thing, they 'vote with their feet' and the > fly-by-nighters suddenly lose a chunk of marketshare, unless they up their > game? > > I'm as sympathetic to Aunty Em and Grandma as the next > I-started-on-a-helpdesk guys, but 'you get what you pay for' applies here > as much as it does everywhere else...? > > > On 23/10/2016 11:22 a.m., Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> And then what? The labor to clean up this mess is not free. Who's >> responsibility is it? The grandma who got a webcam for Christmas to watch >> the squirrels? The ISP?... No... The vendor? What if the vendor had >> released a patch to fix the issue months back, and grandma hadn't >> installed >> it? >> >> Making grandma and auntie Em responsible for the IT things in their house >> is likely not going to go well. >> >> Making the vendor responsible might work for the reputable ones to a >> point, >> but won't work for the fly by night shops that will sell the same products >> under different company names and model names until they get sued or "one >> starred" into oblivion. Then they just change names and start all over. >> >> The ISPs won't do it because of the cost to fix... The labor and potential >> loss of customers. >> >> So once identified, how do you suggest this gets fixed? >> > > *snip* >