On Sep 25, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Brett Glass <na...@brettglass.com> wrote:

> As an ISP who is pro-active when it comes to security, I'd like to know what 
> IP address(es) are being hit by the Krebs on Security DDoS attack. If we 
> know, we can warn customers that they are harboring infected PCs and/or IoT 
> devices. (And if all ISPs did this, it would be possible to curtail such 
> attacks and plug the security holes that make them possible.)

[Pardon the slightly less than specific details below. Must be careful about 
disclosing names or information which is not public yet.]

What Brett is asking seems reasonable, even useful. Unfortunately, it is not as 
simple as posting a list of addresses on a website.

Many devices are compromised because of default user/pass settings. Publishing 
a list of IP addresses which are so trivially compromised is handing the 
miscreants a gift.

We have done things like this with open DNS resolvers and open NTP servers. 
(THANK YOU JARED!!!) However, we had a hope of the administrators fixing the 
problem, and they were at least somewhat easier to find.

This list is different. Harder to find, harder to fix. Grandma is unlikely to 
think about logging into her webcam and changing the admin password - to say 
nothing of reading NANOG in the first place. Hell, even if she did, how exactly 
do you remove malware from a SmartTV?

Obviously we do not consider Brett a bad actor. It is likely we can work 
something out with ISPs like Brett and give them the addresses on their network 
which need remediation. But this is not a five minute job. Plus most of the 
people working on this do so in their spare time. So please be patient as the 
lists are gathered, sorted, and offered in a reasonable manner.

If you are a member of the various secops lists, more info will be forthcoming. 
If not, I’m sure someone will make information available in wider channels. 

To be clear, I am not doing this work personally, so do not email me. The 
people who are doing this work deserve a hearty and huge thanks from the 
community. If you know one of them, buy them a drink or dinner, or at least 
give them a hug. :) I know I will be doing so in Dallas if they let me.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


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