The real issue in the request is that this person is looking for any-to-any 
connectivity which will require either a single L2 switching domain or a L3 
routing domain.  While waves, SDH, and SONET might be your layer one transport 
there are two major factors that are going to affect latency and jitter the 
most.  


1. Geography - Any point to any point has a minimum latency due to simple 
mileage/medium constraints.  You cannot possibly go any faster than the 
velocity of propagation over the media of your choice.  For example, lowest 
latency at layer 1 would probably be P2P microwave (which has a faster velocity 
of propagation than light over fiber) but that would not be an effective way to 
cross the Pacific ocean.

2. Routing/Switching queuing latency - If you want real any to any connectivity 
you need routing or switching logic which takes time.

For example, lowest latency at layer 1 would probably be P2P microwave (which 
has a faster velocity of propagation than fiber) but that would not be an 
effective way to cross the Pacific ocean.

If you are doing an MPLS VPN architecture within the US, your routing/switching 
latency are probably going to be more significant than the layer one technology 
but when you go transoceanic your layer 1 latency becomes more significant.  
The differences in electrical, free RF or optical (like microwave), and optical 
over fiber will vary by something like 30-40% of the speed of light over the 
mileage of the link.  The routing/switching of an any-to-any architecture will 
probably dwarf most of the differences in media.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL






-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Rod Beck
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:45 AM
To: Ryan, Spencer; Arqam Gadit; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Managed global low latency network with any to any connectivity

There are standard routes and there are low latency routes that serve mostly 
traders. The latter charge a big premium. He said the lowest possible latency. 
That is a specialty market where the SLAs are in microseconds, not 
milliseconds. Many carriers have a division for ultra low latency. Hibernia 
Atlantic built express which is just used by financial traders. No one else can 
afford it. And since low latency is the name of the game, it means waves or SDH 
or SONET. Not Ethernet switching.


Regards,


Roderick.


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