In message <31450.1469667...@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 10:48:47 +1000, Mark Andrews said: > > > As soon as a transaction takes place, conspiricy to harm <X> by > > <Y>. If the DoS actually occurs you can add additional charges for > > the actual actions. > > If the claim is that a law has been broken, you have to show that <Y> is > actually a crime in the jurisdiction involved. If it's a civil claim, in > general only <X> will have standing to actually file suit. That's a big chun > k > of the problem - the gamer who ticked off another gamer and got DDoSed doesn' > t > have the knowledge, time, or resources to file a claim that will actually > accomplish anything, and nobody else can file the claim on their behalf.
There have always been plenty of laws to cover DoS attacks. You don't need "with a computer" in the law. You just need to apply existing laws. > > This is no different conceptually to hiring a thug to take a baseball > > bat to a place. You can be charged for consipiricy to commit a > > crime even if the crime does not occur. > > Bringing a baseball bat to a place isn't usually in and of itself > illegal. Thug A may bring a bat to someplace, but absent evidence that > Thug B will then use said bat for nefarious purposes, you're still left > with nothing. You have to draw *all* the dots, Mark. :) It's the hiring that triggers the conspircy. The crime has been committed the moment there is agreement to perform the act. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org
