I don't see wide spread deployment. The most recently built TransAtlantic cable 
is Aquacomms It is QPSK and 130 100 gig waves per pair. Does one really need 
more? C-Lion, the new Finland/Germany cable is 18 terabits per fiber pair. I 
think that is 8 QAM. Is that a representative sample?  I don't know. It is 
certainly a small sample and hence could be highly contained by random error. 
Since so many ISPs dropped their Layer 2 networks in favor of buying cheap 
transit, the market for 100 gig waves is limited to Tier 1 ISPs, a few huge 
hosting companies, and the public Web giants in shopping, social media. I have 
been told that the video streaming guys like Netflix are more similar to Akamai 
than Telia. Dense local footprints.


Bottom line. I don't think the demand is sufficient or the interface costs on 
the customer side sufficiently low. Could be wrong about both.


Regards,


Roderick.


________________________________
From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 11:45 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Interesting Article on Modulation Schemes

Not just "talking about" 16QAM is in active use for subsea high capacity 
channels...  Both Xtera and Infinera are shipping DWDM terminals for 
installation at cable landing stations that use 16QAM for 100/200/400 Gbps 
superchannels.

http://www.xtera.com/home/technology/100g-and-400g/
100G and 400G Coherent | 
Xtera<http://www.xtera.com/home/technology/100g-and-400g/>
www.xtera.com
Xtera's coherent technology support 100G, 400G and beyond optical channel rates 
for high-capacity backbone networks.



http://www.xtera.com/home/products/nu-wave-optima/

Unless I'm grossly mistaken, Alcatel-Lucent and Huawei as well.



On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Rod Beck 
<rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com<mailto:rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>> wrote:

Apparently 40 gigs is the limit of simple laser flash equals 1, no flash equals 
0. Above that threshold the signal becomes larger than an ITU 50 gigahertz 
channel. Most new undersea cables are using QPSK or 8 QAM and talking about 16 
QAM.


This companion piece explains it: 
http://digital.lightwaveonline.com/lightwave/20130708/?pm=1&u1=friend&pg=19#pg19.


- Roderick.


________________________________
From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 10:40 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Interesting Article on Modulation Schemes

Essentially the transceiver optics are applying the same modulation and coding 
that have been used in point-to-point microwave for a long time...   Starting 
from OOK, up to BPSK and then on to QPSK, 16QAM and possibly 64QAM with varying 
levels of FEC.

A singlemode fiber is just an extremely narrow diameter waveguide. Big 
difference in frequency between a 71-86 GHz FDD radio pair and optical at 191 
to 196 THz.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:50 AM, Rod Beck 
<rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com<mailto:rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>> wrote:
The new undersea cable systems are now capable of 18 terabits per fiber pair. 
It is interesting how combinations of bits are being represented by 
combinations of optical features.


http://www.lightwaveonline.com/articles/print/volume-30/issue-5/features/which-optical-modulation-scheme-best-fits-my-application.html


Roderick Beck

Director of Global Sales

United Cable Company

www.unitedcablecompany.com<http://www.unitedcablecompany.com><http://www.unitedcablecompany.com>



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