On 6/20/16, 1:45 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Mark Andrews" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org 
on behalf of ma...@isc.org> wrote:




>For a lot of homes it actually makes sense.  You laptops are safe
>as they are designed to be connected directly to the Internet.  We
>do this all the time.  Similarly phone and tablets are designed to
>be directly connected to the Internet.  I know that lots of us do
>this all the time.  Think about what happens at conferences.  There
>is no firewall there to save you but we all regularly connect our
>devices to the conference networks.
>
>Lots of other stuff is also designed to be directly connected to
>the Internet.


I’m sorry, but this just isn’t the reality of consumer devices. Expecting your 
off-the-shelf computer, video player, tv, fridge, etc, to be safe on public IP 
addresses is.. Unwise at best. Search any publicly available security list for 
dozens of known vulnerabilities in those devices, to say nothing of the private 
exploit databases.

To place them there, have them be owned, crash, or better yet, stream your 
midnight-milk-and-cookies-run-in-your-superman-undies to the public internet, 
and then expect the vendors to be responsible… is not a realistic expectation.



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