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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Elvis Daniel Velea
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 6:36 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels

Netflix, YOU are the ones forcing people to turn IPv4 off... this is just 
insane. tens (if not hundred) of thousands of people chose to use HE tunnels 
because their ISP does not offer IPv6..
do you really expect all of them to turn it off? do you really want IPv6 usage 
in the world to go down by a few percent because you are unable to figure out 
how to serve content?
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I hate to say it, but I'm willing to bet that for every one person who setup an 
HE tunnel to get functional IPv6 ahead of native via ISP, there are probably 10 
who set it up solely to get around geo-lockout.  Honestly though, is there any 
reason the Netflix 'client' as part of its login can't be queried for an IPv4 
address if Netflix sees (or thinks) a tunnel is involved?  If there is a tunnel 
involved, you most likely have IPv4 access on the client.  Then do a geo-lookup 
on the IPv4.  I guess the ~500 people on NANOG using HE to get to NetFlix could 
all cancel their subscriptions, but that's just a drop of water in the bucket.  
It sucks.  The true jerks who used HE to bypass geo-lockout probably changed to 
something else the next day.  But we suffer still.  The FCC or some other 
federal entity probably needs to step in.

Chuck


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