On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dennis Burgess
<dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote:
> Not wishing to get into a pissing war with who is right or wrong, but it 
> sounds like google already pays or has an agreement with cogent for v4, as 
> that's unaffected, cogent says google is simply not advertising v6 prefixes 
> to them, so, how is that cogent's fault?
>

Did you check that on Cogent's LookingGlass?

"BGP routing table entry for 216.239.32.0/24, version 3740382954
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
  6453 15169
    154.54.13.206 (metric 10102020) from 154.54.66.21 (154.54.66.21)
      Origin IGP, metric 4294967294, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
      Community: 174:10031 174:20666 174:21000 174:22013
      Originator: 66.28.1.9, Cluster list: 154.54.66.21"

is a lookup on: http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/looking-glass

if 216.239.32.0 - which holds ns1.google.com... I'd expect that
ns1.google.com would be routed via the majority of links 15169 has
with the world.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Lewis [mailto:jle...@lewis.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 11:26 AM
> To: Jürgen Jaritsch <jjarit...@anexia-it.com>
> Cc: Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>; North American Network 
> Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
>
> In other words, GOOG is playing peering chicken with Cogent for IPv6.  I'm 
> not surprised.  I suggested it during talks with GOOG roughly 10 years 
> ago...not saying I had any influence...I'm pretty sure I did not. :)
>
> GOOG wants Cogent to peer.  Cogent wants GOOG to pay for transit (from them 
> or someone else to get to Cogent).  If you're well peered / multihomed, it's 
> not much of an issue.  If you're a single-homed Cogent customer, you should 
> complain to Cogent that they're not providing full
> IPv6 connectivity.
>
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2016, Jürgen Jaritsch wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> mail from Cogent:
>>>>>>
>> Dear Cogent Customer,
>>
>> Thank you for contacting Cogent Customer Support for information about the 
>> Google IPv6 addresses you are unable to reach.
>>
>> Google uses transit providers to announce their IPv4 routes to Cogent.
>>
>> At this time however, Google has chosen not to announce their IPv6 routes to 
>> Cogent through transit providers.
>>
>> We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and will notify you if 
>> there is an update to the situation.
>> <<<<
>>
>> Mail from Google:
>>>>>>
>> Unfortunately it seems that your transit provider does not have IPv6 
>> connectivity with Google. We suggest you ask your transit provider to look 
>> for alternatives to interconnect with us.
>>
>> Google maintains an open interconnect policy for IPv6 and welcomes any 
>> network to peer with us for access via IPv6 (and IPv4). For those networks 
>> that aren't able, or chose not to peer with Google via IPv6, they are able 
>> to reach us through any of a large number of transit providers.
>>
>> For more information in how to peer directly with Google please visit
>> https://peering.google.com <<<<
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> Jürgen Jaritsch
>> Head of Network & Infrastructure
>>
>> ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH
>>
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>> Telefax: +43-5-0556-500
>>
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>> Web: http://www.anexia-it.com
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+jjaritsch=anexia-it....@nanog.org] Im
>> Auftrag von Dennis Burgess
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. März 2016 17:01
>> An: North American Network Operators' Group
>> Betreff: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
>>
>> I just noticed that I am NOT getting IPV6 Google prefixes though Cogent at 
>> all. I was told google pulled all of their peering with Cogent?   If I bring 
>> up a SIT tunnel with HE, I get the prefixes but at horrible speed and 
>> latency .. anyone else?
>>
>> [DennisBurgessSignature]
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>> dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>>
>>
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