This small audience also consists of predominately people that administer 
networks and would be doing such things. I'll be you'll find a vastly different 
percentage of the Cross Stitch Operators Group even know what DNS is, much less 
have any desire to change it. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "David Bass" <davidbass...@gmail.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> 
Cc: "Brielle Bruns" <br...@2mbit.com>, nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 10:47:55 AM 
Subject: Re: Thank you, Comcast. 

I disagree...the point of what I sent (missed by some) is that in just this 
small audience there are many that do/have/know about customers that run their 
own stuff. 

Trying to blow it off, or minimize those customers just makes you seem a little 
arrogant. Nothing worse than an arrogant business... 

> On Feb 26, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: 
> 
> I think you'd be hard pressed to find more than a tenth of a percent of 
> people attempt to run their own DNS server. Some do because they think it'll 
> be better in some way. Rare is the occasion where anything user configured 
> would outperform a local DNS server managed by the ISP that does no form of 
> trickery. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> Midwest-IX 
> http://www.midwest-ix.com 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Brielle Bruns" <br...@2mbit.com> 
> To: nanog@nanog.org 
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 9:56:40 AM 
> Subject: Re: Thank you, Comcast. 
> 
>> On 2/26/16 6:27 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
>> "you will also block legitimate return traffic if the customers run 
>> their own DNS servers or use opendns / google dns / etc." 
>> 
>> I'm fine with that. Residential customers shouldn't be running DNS 
>> servers anyway and as far as the outside resolvers to go, ehhhh... I 
>> see the case for OpenDNS given that you can use it to filter (though 
>> that's easily bypassed), but not really for any others. 
> 
> 
> Except that half the time people run their own DNS resolvers because 
> their provider's resolvers are 
> 
> 1) Absolute garbage and either fail queries for no reason, don't respond 
> at times, respond super slow, etc. 
> 
> 2) Hijack NXDOMAIN for advertising / money generation 
> 
> 3) Hijack responses to inject their own ads, popups, etc. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Brielle Bruns 
> The Summit Open Source Development Group 
> http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org 
> 

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