Hi Martjin,

> I think nearly every major IP transit provider has built out a BGP action 
> community system to allow their customers to control prefix announcements in

That’s also what I thought but the truth is: there are MANY major transit 
providers who simply doesn't support any community ... one of the most famous 
is Hurricane Electric :(



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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] Im Auftrag von i3D.net - Martijn 
Schmidt
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Jänner 2016 15:01
An: Andrey Yakovlev <andy.ya...@ya.ru>; Bernd Spiess <bernd.spi...@ip-it.com>; 
Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>; Hugo Slabbert <h...@slabnet.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Betreff: Re: AW: Peering Exchange

"We also had problems where transit customers said don't want to be
exported to a certain IX point of presence while he wanted to be
exported at a different location."

That's a fairly normal request. I think nearly every major IP transit
provider has built out a BGP action community system to allow their
customers to control prefix announcements in the way you're describing
it here (e.g. prepending and no-export to certain peers/upstreams). Of
course outbound traffic from your customer to "the rest of the world"
can not be controlled that way.

Best regards,
Martijn

On 01/27/2016 02:23 AM, Andrey Yakovlev wrote:
> Some companies present at some IX with no MLPE simply don't like to be listed 
> at all, and they prefer to be filtered out from LG servers. It's simply their 
> police and some big companies do not have a policy which is the same for 
> everyone peering, say, content provider X will peer with you if you reach 
> >80Mbps, could not always be true. I have lived a situation where someone 
> demanded to peer to a DC I happened to manage at that time because his 
> competitor was peering as well and sharing the same IX, but my company had no 
> real reason to peer from the NOC perspective and using another port would 
> just be a waste of time and money with no real advantage other than a barely 
> better latency. Manager said no thanks, as asked for our peering policy to 
> become private. Sometimes things just don't have a better explanation and 
> some people just don't want to accept a different policy to different players.
> We also had problems where transit customers said don't want to be exported 
> to a certain IX point of presence while he wanted to be exported at a 
> different location. Who ever told him he could pick where we export who? 
> Nobody. In the end if you are seriously interested to join the IX you will 
> bet the full list for MLPEs, etc. Otherwise it's just the policy for the club.
>
> -- 
> ./andy
>
>
> 26.01.2016, 22:23, "Bernd Spiess" <bernd.spi...@ip-it.com>:
>>>   Is there a way to browse a route server at
>>>   certain exchanges, and see who is and is not on the route server?
>>  Quite many ixp´s do so ... so you can verify yourself what is going on...
>>  Typical offer of a looking glass:
>>  You can see the sessions, you can see the amount of prefixes,
>>  You can see the prefix list and you can see the communities & more
>>  on these prefixes
>>
>>  E.g.:
>>  https://lg.nyc.de-cix.net/
>>  https://lg.dxb.de-cix.net/
>>  https://lg.mrs.de-cix.net/ ... and others ...
>>  https://www.linx.net/pubtools/looking-glass.html
>>  https://tieatl-server1.telx.com/lg.pl
>>  etc...
>>
>>  not sure why this should be hidden ... but yes: there are some
>>  ixp out there who does not show this information or just with a
>>  login ...
>>
>>  Bernd
>>  (yes ... I do work for de-cix)



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