On 12/22/15, 1:13 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Owen DeLong" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of o...@delong.com> wrote:
>Yet until Apple gets to that IPv6-only stage, you¹re refusing to support >IPv6 for those of us >that need it today even while we still need IPv4, too. > >Owen Owen, you¹re out of line. Lee > >> On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:08 , Ca By <cb.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com >><mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: >> Does this mean you are negligent for not supporting IPv6 on my phone on >>your network? >> >> My phone is perfectly capable of IPv6, yet because it doesn¹t support >>your particular religion >> about IPv4 translation, you refuse to support IPv6 on it. >> >> When is T-Mobile going to fix their IPv6 implementation and stop >>ignoring the #1 market >> leading phone manufacturer? >> >> Owen >> >> >> Apple has an ipv6-only plan in the link above. They have committed to >>remove the ipv4 dependent apps from the app store. Once the ipv4-only >>apps are bannished, i dont see any roadblocks for ipv6 on iPhone. >> >> While you say there is a religious war, i am saying Apple outlined a >>plan for ipv6-only and T-Mobile is likely to follow that plan from >>Apple. >> >> CB >> >> >> > On Dec 22, 2015, at 04:45 , Ca By <cb.li...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> >>wrote: >> > >> > TL;DR version: the data shows you are negligent if your eyeball >>content >> > (cdn, cloud, ...) does not support native ipv6. >> > >> > With the NAT and IPv4 leasing threads lingering on, i figured it was >>time >> > for an update on how the other half live >> > >> > More than 1/3 of North America mobile traffic to the top websites is >>end to >> > end ipv6 >> > >>http://www.worldipv6launch.org/2015-wrapup-more-than-13-us-mobile-traffic >>-is-ipv6-and-still-growing/ >><http://www.worldipv6launch.org/2015-wrapup-more-than-13-us-mobile-traffi >>c-is-ipv6-and-still-growing/> >> > >> > The trend is clearly growing, and as AT&T and Sprint catch up with >>T-Mobile >> > and Verizon, the acceleration to 50% should be easily achieved. >> > Furthermore, only one mobile carrier has iPhone dual-stacked today >>(afaik), >> > but Apple has a plan for banning ipv4-only apps and has delivered the >> > required features for having ipv6-only iphones in 2016 with these iOS >>9.2 >> > features >> > >> > >>https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternetW >>eb/Conceptual/NetworkingOverview/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Trans >>ition/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transition.html >><https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternet >>Web/Conceptual/NetworkingOverview/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Tran >>sition/UnderstandingandPreparingfortheIPv6Transition.html> >> > >> > On some mobile providers, ipv6 is already dominant and ipv4 is >>waning. Once >> > iPhones updates to ipv6-only as described above, ipv4 will only be a >>corner >> > case of operations. This comes with added benefit that ipv6 is >>faster : >> > >> > >>https://code.facebook.com/posts/1192894270727351/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on >>-board/ >><https://code.facebook.com/posts/1192894270727351/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-o >>n-board/> >> > >> > At least in mobile, the change to ipv6 has been quick and the pace is >> > increasing -- not just on ipv6 deployment but also on ipv4 shutdown. >>I know >> > many people liken ipv6 to "the boy who cried wolf", so be it, the >> > data shows the ipv6 wolf is here. Or perhapsin hind sight, we will >>see >> > the right metaphor was "the tortoise and the hare" or "the little >>engine >> > that could"... Or even better IPv4 is John Henry. It was the best in >>its >> > time, but times have changed. >> > >> > CB >> > >
