I'd expect that eventually DE-CIX will build into every Dallas datacenter as they have done in New York and Germany whereas Equinix is only available... in Equinix.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colton Conor" <colton.co...@gmail.com> To: "Charles Gucker" <cguc...@onesc.net> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 8:36:20 AM Subject: Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix Charles, You mentioned to not use " DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark" for Dallas, but it looks like DE-CIX has priced their Dallas ports, according to their website, at the same prices at NYC: https://www.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/#c2374 PortSpeed/GbpsMRC1GE1US$ 57510GE10US$ 1,250100GE100On request Pricing table effective from 1 August 2015. There is a special offer: *Join us now and get your 1GE or 10GE port free of charge for* - *6 months* (minimum contract term of 12 months) or - *12 months* (minimum contract term of 36 months). https://www.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/#c2374 So it seems that their 10G port price, after promo, is $1250, and it does not mention cross connect would be included. Compare this to Equinix's 10G port with a cross connect included at $1000 per month. Considering Equinix's cross connects are usually $350 per month, this means Equinix's actual 10G port really cost $650 per month. So, I will ask the question again, why are providers going to jump and use DE-CIX over Equinix's peering exchange? I am failing to see the benefit. I thought it would be price, but apparently not. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Charles Gucker <cguc...@onesc.net> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > What are the main difference between these two peering companies, > > exchanges, and overall operating model? The market in question would be > > Dallas Texas where Equinix already has the only established peering > > exchange with over 100 members, and DE-CIX just announced today that that > > would also be building one in Dallas. It will take time for DE-CIX to > > establish their exchange in Dallas and get members, but they better > > question is why would people switch? > > In short, Equinix is by far and large a data center operator and > the Internet exchange is an add-on service only available within their > data center locations. DE-CIX is an exchange point operator who > operates in multiple dis-parent data center locations. > > > For a 10G port with a cross connect to the exchange included Equinix > > charges $1000 per month. According to DE-CIX it looks like they charge > > $1250 per month for a 10G port in NYC, so I asusme the same would be true > > in Dallas. https://nyc.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/ > > I would not use DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark. As DE-CIX > learned, NYC is a very difficult market to get connectivity and to > build an exchange in. As such their operating costs are a lot > higher than in other markets and I don't believe it would be a good > assumption to use NYC based pricing in Dallas. But keep in mind, > DE-CIX likes to distribute their network access nodes to get a larger > audience than within ones own facility. > > Also, I would suggest looking at the big picture and the cost of > colocation services in a facility other than Equinix to "level the > playing field". > > > Looks like DE-CIX will offer a promo to entice new members to join, and > > their exchange will be in the carrier neatural meet me room operated by > the > > infomart that will have little to no cross connect fees. > > > > Why would people pay more to connect to an exchange with less members? > What > > is the european exchange that is a non-profit and basically only covers > the > > cost of operating the exchange? > > As stated above, when looking at the big picture, it may or may > not be more expensive when all of your other services are considered. > > It should be said that I don't have any axe to grind and think > very highly of Equinix. But with respect to Dallas, I would suggest > looking at bigger picture and see if your assumptions still hold true. > > charles >
