> On Jul 9, 2015, at 09:16 , Matthew Huff <mh...@ox.com> wrote:
> 
> When I see a car that needs a /56 subnet then I’ll take your use case 
> seriously. Otherwise, it’s just plain laughable. Yes, I could theorize a use 
> case for this, but then I could theorize that someday everyone will get to 
> work using jetpacks.

When I see a reason not to give out /48s, I might start taking your argument 
seriously.

> We have prefix delegation already via DHCP-PD, but some in the IPv6 world 
> don’t even want to support DHCP, how does SLAAC do prefix delegation, or am I 
> missing something else? I assume each car is going to be running as  RA? 
> Given quality of implementations of IPv6 in embedded devices so far, I found 
> that pretty ludicrous.

Clearly the quality of IPv6 in embedded devices needs to improve. There’s 
clearly work being done on LWIP IPv6, but I don’t think it’s ready for prime 
time yet. (LWIP is one of the most popular embedded IP stacks. You’ll find it 
in a wide range of devices, including, but not limited to the ESP8266).

> Seriously, the IPv6 world needs to get a clue. Creating new protocols and 
> solutions at this point in the game is only making it more difficult for IPv6 
> deployment, not less. IPv6 needs to stabilize and get going.. instead it 
> seems everyone is musing about theoretical world where users need 64k 
> networks. I understand the idea of not wanting to not think things through, 
> but IPv6 is how many years old, and we are still arguing about these things? 
> Don’t let the prefect be the enemy of the good.

/48s for end sites are NOT new… They have been part of the IPv6 design criteria 
from about the same time 128-bit addresses were decided. It is these silly 
IPv4-think notions of /56 and /60 that are new changes to the protocol.

The good news is that it’s very easy to deploy /48s and if it turns out we were 
wrong, virtually everyone currently advocating /48s will happily help you get 
more restrictive allocation policies when 2000::/3 runs out. (assuming any of 
us are still alive when that happens).


Owen

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