> On Jun 10, 2015, at 05:08, Roland Dobbins <rdobb...@arbor.net> wrote:

> Another thought is governmentally-driven censorship, something else I 
> encounter a lot in my travels.

I was talking a few weeks ago with a developer type from China who said 
something to the effect of “Hosted X is a problem because while developer types 
have experience getting around firewalls, [manager types] do not…”


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